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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 6:54 pm 
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I disagree, the infulence of western pop on Bollywood music has opened more doors of creativity for this facet. This isn't to suggesst that India is more headed towards the "American way" of doing things while leaving behind an unperfected rooted style. I believe it's more to do with defying the Universal age of "pop-culture" era. With the rise of artists whom competently follow this ideal like Rahman, SEL, JazzyB, Lucky Ali, Sagoo, Raghav, Sukshinder Shinida, and the UK/desi connection Jay Sean, Rishi Rich. The sounds of Indian music is becoming more "hip" quite frankly. Infact, there are many old hindi film songs that I never gave a damn about till DJ Love has been remixing them.


That's certainly true, and these artists are not even the first to use Western influences. I'm not condemning Western influence in Indian music across-the-board, but some albums do sound like the music directors just combined some loops, added vocals, and boom, it sounds no different from a Western techno or pop album. That is the kind of soulless music that I don't like.


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DragunR2 wrote:
That's certainly true, and these artists are not even the first to use Western influences. I'm not condemning Western influence in Indian music across-the-board, but some albums do sound like the music directors just combined some loops, added vocals, and boom, it sounds no different from a Western techno or pop album. That is the kind of soulless music that I don't like.

I see your point. And I agree with you. But with the names I've mentioned. I've liked what they've done so far and some of it is just off the hook. (ie. Nachna Tere Naal with Rishi Rich, Jay Sean & Juggy D - it was introduced to me through the music of Boom, and I became instantly obsessed with it. I use to tune it loud on my car stereo while washing my car during last summer. Today, I'm more tuned with Sukshinder Shinida's rap style-punjabi antics.)


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Nachne Tere Naal has some creativity and distinctiveness, and I assume their other songs do too (not too familiar with the three you mentioned), so I'm not even criticising an album for not sounding Indian. Its when the music has no particular creativity that I get annoyed.

There has been unoriginal Indian sounding stuff too. Nadeem-Shravan, anyone?


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Speaking of pop artists, I think EUPHORIA is best and most creative of them all! :oops:

To get back ontopic: PAHELI's soundtrack is really good. I think it will gel well with the mood of the film. But it hasn't really that much repeat value. :( Brilliant nonetheless. 8)

PARINEETA to me has the best music of 2005 until now. :oops:


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On Paheli music: I like it. It almost seems unconventional to have such rooted style music for a film with a loud cast. The song "Bina" seems to suggest that the film is darkly themed, whether or not this film is or isn't one, the song is still pretty hypnotizing. The greatness lies in the refreshing sound of the album, evidently, obvious similarities can be made with Lamhe, but it's mostly unlike anything I've heard before. This album just trails Bose as my favourite Bollywood music of the year so far. The latter album isn't great as expected, but it's still pretty good.


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More info on EUPHORIA --> http://www.dhoom.com

Listen to:
- Waise Hi
- Maeri
- Dhoom
- What is the mantra of your life?

and all others! :D


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Anwar wrote:
More info on EUPHORIA --> http://www.dhoom.com

Listen to:
- Waise Hi
- Maeri
- Dhoom
- What is the mantra of your life?

and all others! :D


isnt Euphoria is the bengali guy in filhal, anwar miyan?


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He is, Arsh bhaisaab. :wink:


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dvdunlimited wrote:
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All in all, Paheli is an attempt to create a classic Rajasthani album.

Lot of people are quoting this as Rajasthani album. Not sure if Rajasthani sound lot like telugu/tamil folk albums, but the entire album is a repetition of MD's own work and heavy influence from IR tamil & telugu albums.

As far as the sales goes, this CD is flat to dead now. Hopefully ad and how well the song goes with the movie will decide the commercial success of this album.


Well DU, now I have familiarized my self !!

Tunes might be from Telugu numbers? Cant say? But his arrangements/instrumentation is very authentic, Indian, Rajhastani, one other thing, if you listen to music pieces, all instruments are so discrete individually without any hu humm of underlying orchestration. I thing thats what he meant that this soundtrack, is ALL ANALOGUE, non COMPUTERIZED DIGITAL!

Laga Re Jal, has same Raga based tune like Ghanan Ghanan from Lagan, but then it becomes, much different tune and arrangements.

I always liked Saathiya, Nayak, Hindi versions, and thought it was redone, very nicely.
Re Nayak, of course song pasteurization went SOUTH again!

One thing that really bothers me while listening to Paheli, is Vocals and Hindi of this Darn Ga, Bela Shinde?

Her Nasal voice along with awful Hindi pronunciation..sucks! it irks me!

Sand...is pronounced as REET, and SAYINGS as BULIYAN! She really spoils that beautiful Hari's number!

I don't blame, Kr em for that but Gulzar should have supervised his authentic Urdu/Hindi better!

Re SK-NATH, I can not buy him unfortunately a new set of HIGH DEFINITION/HIGH RESOLUTION EARS! but may be he needs a HOME THEATER system and Original Audio CD to become THE BELIEVER! :wink: :?: :idea: 8)


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He is, Arsh bhaisaab. :wink:


He has good voice but he was another sucky actor, like Sonu Nigam, should stay where he belonged.

I saw his performance in one of FF awards, he was pathetic there too!

Now, I strongly condemn Remixing of Devdas, VZ, Taj Mahal, Mughl E Azam, Paheli, Saathiya etc..I think it is atrocious to do this kinda treatment to authentic Hindi music.But tainting these in the name of art is not acceptable option for me. :(

Artists who are Pop singers, Rap Singers, Fusion singers and composers , no doubt have their own, niche and place, but I refuse to aknowledge this new breed of Remix, composers, Singers, performers!


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Rita wrote:
Anwar wrote:
He is, Arsh bhaisaab. :wink:


The dude can’t act but the dude has a decent pair of vocal chords! Not too many singers crossover well into acting, except perhaps Lucky Ali?

Re: remix/rap/pop…Certainly it would be a disservice to the Hindi musical industry if they remix classical rich repertoire songs such as Devdas, Taj Mahal, Mughal E Azam, Umrao Jaan, etc. May the divine powers above strike lightening upon the rappers who consider remixing these treasures! Can't imagine Jazzy B singing to ‘Dola Re Dola' and Shaggy rapping in the background with a gospel chorus! Holy cow! Might be Sknath’s preference of chillin’ to music?! :shock:

Remixing good classics like Bach, Beethovan music to suit the pop/disco generation works well to a degree. God forbid if it has an equivalent success for Hindi classics like Paheli, and so forth!


Rita, singers crossing over into movies will face one big handicap. They will all be compared with Kishore Kumar. I mean..he was one actor/singer who could mould himself either as a singer or as an actor...and yet come out on top ! Thats why its been ages since the demise of Kishore Kumar, that no singer has successfully transitioned into acting.
YOu cant call Mehmood a singer as he was there to sing a few lines only !

Now who is Jazzy B and Shaggy ? I know SHaggy from Scooby Doo ? Is that the same shaggy ?


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Now, I strongly condemn Remixing of Devdas, VZ, Taj Mahal, Mughl E Azam, Paheli, Saathiya etc..I think it is atrocious to do this kinda treatment to authentic Hindi music.But tainting these in the name of art is not acceptable option for me. :(

Artists who are Pop singers, Rap Singers, Fusion singers and composers , no doubt have their own, niche and place, but I refuse to aknowledge this new breed of Remix, composers, Singers, performers!
Completely agree with you. :wink:


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http://www.planetbollywood.com/displayA ... 1005083304

´Paheli´ To Release With A Table Profit Of Two Crores

Producer-actor Shah Rukh Khan's Amol Palekar directed 'Paheli' , with a budget of around 10 crores ( 13 crores including print and publicity) will release on June 24 , with a table profit of more than 2 crores . The makers have already got 7 crores by way of music and overseas rights and about 5 crores is expected from India . We must add here that the box-office outcome of 'Paheli' ( for India) will be based on distributors cost and earnings , irrespective of the producers table profit .


While on 'Paheli' , the two sattelite channels 'Zee' and 'Sahara', are in negotiations to clinch the sattelite rights .


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Well, you have a HIT then, before it released? :?: :idea: :wink:

As I predicted sab Lulla ka kamal, he picked up Chalte Chalte from Srook for table profit!

According to India's leading trade expert , the overseas distributor (Kishore Lulla) of 'Paheli' came up with the suggestion of a postponement . That is because the first weekend of July is a long holiday weekend in the USA (4th July being the US Independence day ) and Lulla felt that if 'Paheli' was released on 24th June , its second weekend in the USA would be bountiful . He also expects the first weekend to be bumper as well .


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'Paheli'- Ravi to digitally reduce Rani's colours!

By Abid ©2005 Bollyvista.com






Rani in 'Paheli'
As the industry's ace DOP (Director of Photography) Ravi K. Chandran has an enviable track record and the most striking aspect being his range. His last four works being 'Yuva', 'Koi... Mil Gaya', 'Black' and 'Paheli' - each has its own grammar and language.

Last week, he was trying to figure out the catch in Shah Rukh Khan's upcoming 'Paheli'. Seated at the JW Marriott in Bombay, Chandran rushed off to watch a promo of 'Kangna Re', where Rani Mukherji is in a brown and maroon 'lehenga' playing hard to get with SRK clad in royal blue. In the background is a rainbow of dancers. "I need to digitally reduce it," he admonished himself!


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