I find the title, "How come all Zulm Threads end up being technically stupid!!" offensive to me.

For this discussion/ vote to be meaningful, I'm starting this thread with a different title.

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Pleae vote keeping in mind whether zulm mission is to point out DVD improvements constructively or a web popularity contest.

Can I ask the 5 voter respondents who voted so far in the initial thgread to vote again please. Thank You.

Voted for Irrelevant.

I don't want to know if its telecine, PAL, NTSC or whatever (Don't have a clue what all of this means ). I just watch the movie & have an opinion about the story of the movie. DvD Quality of the movie, we all know it s*cks (And I'm buying these crap DvD's ).

If there's any of this information in a thread, I skip the post & read the next post without this information . This is a forum, I know there are many members who want to know this information. So guys don't make a big issue of this .

SE.

Nope. Field Average Question would have been:

Are, "www.zulm.net, http://www.abcdefghijk.net, http://www.12345677.com, http://www.768123ej23rfvjwefh8o93r.ghy, http://www.xckmzcnvsfajgfsigfuofjl.con, etc etc" becoming crappier, intelligent, wiser, foolish, interesting, boring, dont care etc. etc. with the technical/ non-technical, abusive, civilized etc etc referrences??



This is exactly what field average is.

I think that’s always going to part of the parcel regards Indian DVDs as there’s only certain number of ways you can say the DVD is crap I found the same when I used to have time to do so called ‘reviews’ - end result was repeatedly saying the DVD is crap. Sadly very little has changed in Indian DVD quality in the past few years.

Ali

It may be boring to readers, but it's a constructive feedback to DVD right holders and DVD makers by pin pointing what's wrong.

Whether they will listen to this constructive feed back or not, depends on whether customers want quality or not.

So, pointing out technically relevant info/ flaw means we are repeatedly telling them to take care of this flaw. It can't get more constructive than that. If it gets boring to read, would you rather keep on getting upset over watching crap DVDs??

Would you not rather have PAL DVDs from PAL (or 50 fps digital) telecine a la Metrodome ASOKA, Diaphana DEVDAS. Remember NTSC ASOKA that was made from the same master (PAL) that Metrodome ASOKA was.

That just about sums up what this is all about! People do have a choice, when all this technical jargon is mentioned you either read or skip it over as snakeyes mentioned. There was no need to start a survey and waste precious bandwith! The authors of Indian DVDs don't give a shit one way or the other about quality just the paisa.

Another Tech Ref.

1) BTW, I did post one 24 course Dinner analogy to Prog/ Field Average. If any one interested, I could post this fun analogy again. But please, I won't have time starting next week for the next 3-4 weeks.

2) BTW, I do understand, most people not caring for tech stuff or quality DVD authoring. My own brother brought a bundle of VCDs from India as a great bargain (why spend any more on DVD type discs when VCD discs are so cheap). Quality he doesn't care (14-20 inch TV) anyways, but wait till he finds out Indian VCDs don't display on our NTSC TVs.

Who’s delusional?

Ali

One of the two!! I have given up on hindi dvds, and no hope is alive! There might be a couple good dvds on our way once high def dvds momentum starts to rake mullah from opressed/depressed hindi dvd viewers one more time!

I envy telugu dvd watchers, who are getting good IDREAM stuff!!

For rest !dvds, dvd makers, dvd watchers...I dont bother.

At the end of the day, it is your money, you have all the right to spend it as you wish!

I already won FF award for my performance!! I could have awarded a few too, to pay back!! But it is not worth. You throw dirt it will come back to you in one form or the other.

So retreat is the best policy!

Let people think for themselves! my 2 humble cents!

I know of at least two instances, where the did/ do care.

1) Lakshya DVD; input/ quality-control/ suggestions from mhafner.

2) idream Telugu DVDs.
I know for a fact, this company has been and still is in constant touch with at least 3 (one gave up zulm because of bickering) zulm members. The result: Their recent releases are progressive, from best source avail (film negative or interpositive), anamorphic, no excessive DVNR, DD as well as DTS sound. I saw the results on over 100 inch screen when visiting one of our ex-zulm members. Second zulm member is still active on zulm and has seen the results. 3rd zulm member, so far has had no time to spend.

BTW, believe me, I'm not "idream" and somehow don't have contacts with idream.

Why haven't these three (ex)zulmi amigos approached and got results with bollywood DVDs? from the likes of YRF, Eros, Video Sound etc. ?

Are all these DVD guys so incompetent that they’ll only make decent DVD once others have told them how to do so?

Ali

1) It's not 3 ex-zulmis. Only one. Other two are still active zulm members.

2) It's not that idream is so incompetent, it's that they asked for feedback and wanted to know what quality concious consumers want.

3) Why EROS YRF VS don't consult??
At one time I asked one of the DVD right holders to use a pirate but much better (one zulm member called it a work of master tech, in one of the posts) DVD. As they had the rights, they were free to use a pirate for replication. But, they said, their own version is good enough. Nothing doing. Why should they, when no one, other than me, demands it??

bloody hell this thread is turning technical and boring again... a prime example of the way zulm is leading.. boring crap... im sorry to say this guys, but zulm used to be a lot more chirpier back in the days.. yes we had the odd thread here there and everywhere which took technical aspects into consideration, but now its just gone stupid.. every thread created about a particular movie, the technical jargon pops up and just takes the thread into oblivion.. u gotta remember not all of us are technical gurus.. in all honesty a lot of us dont care what is behind creating a good disc... yes we all like to see nice discs with good transfer, but i for one dont really care what shit goes on behind the scenes to create it... if some do then so be it, maybe ali should dedicate a whole forum to the technicalities of dvd authoring... u gotta remember we are all desis.. we go to watch movies to get away from the difficulties we face in real life and just ogle at the birds on the big screen.. we are all uneducated fools who eat paaan, drive the rikshaw and come home to our wife and 15.6 children.... thats what life is about......... it is for one reason i dont come on zulm anymore.. cos its boring and tedious.. the same banter the same gay jokes about how a disc will be flawed because it will not be pulldown, force fieled average and what not... i cant be arsed reading that crap... yes there are a fair few of u who enjoy talking about it.. but im sure the people who do enjoy them technicalities can be counted on one hand............... its unfair at us paindoos who just wanna see which discs are worth pirating and which are worth ordering from pakistan...