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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 8:11 pm 
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R2 is lucky in this respect. Europe is 3 to 5 years ahead of North America in Widescreen TVs. Thats why many DVDs used to be released anamorphic in Europe and letterboxed in North America. In North America, we don't complain enough.

You know which ASOKA DVD sold more and which one was better.

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indeed r2/r0 my friend..u know why not r1!!because of copy, but even this one is a copy still does not compare the way asoka was copied!!

But still question remains, while cpying, why it did not retain its anamorphic enhancement and how come dts got added!




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arsh wrote:
But still question remains, while cpying, why it did not retain its anamorphic enhancement and how come dts got added!


Two different transfers handled independently by two different companies - no copying or this speed shift nonsense involved.

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On this account, R2 DVD should have had higher bit rate as that one is anamorphic. But it is other way around.


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ali, btw! how can u explain, low bit rate of r2 transfer even with no dts sound track on the same disc..just wondering...


When you store more information, more of the space on the disk is used up, bit rate becomes lower as more is stored.

The non-anamorphic NTSC DVD of Monsoon Wedding (which inherently is at slightly lower resolution than PAL) is storing the letter box black bars which don’t require much space to store - the actual video information that’s being stored is less compared to PAL DVD.

NTSC MW DVD is at 720x480 pixel resolution but the actual video information being stored in reality (the way MPEG-2 compression works) is much lower – say half the screen is black bars so in actual the information being stored is roughly 360x480 – so because less information is being stored over the same dual layered disc the video gets higher a high bit rate.

PAL MW DVD is at 720x576 resolution and because it is anamorphic all this resolution is used up by the video. So more is being stored on a dual layered disc – so less bit rate available for the video.

The audio tracks (even DTS) in comparison to video don’t take much disc space. Put that all together and you’ll see why R1 DVD is not anamorphic. To include the DTS track and make it anamorphic maybe was pushing the DVD dual layer space bit too much – so one had to go.

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ali wrote:
Two different transfers handled independently by two different companies - no copying or this speed shift nonsense involved.

Ali :baaa:

Isn't 4% speed shift normal and accepted practice for Film to PAL transfers??

mhafner wrote in Shemaroo thead, "PAL DVDs with 4% speedup from India would be nice if the rest is ok, but as I said, in India it's also usual to repeat two fields and that sucks. You can also see it on PAL TV from India at times".


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Thnx ali for well done explaination, now it started making sense that anamorphic enhancement was sacrificed on cost of dts sound track, kool...I have been very happy with dei letterboxed dvds , prog transfered ,non anamorphic..so!

but a prog with anamorphic would have been an extra treat!hmm


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ali wrote:
NTSC MW DVD is at 720x480 pixel resolution but the actual video information being stored in reality (the way MPEG-2 compression works) is much lower – say half the screen is black bars so in actual the information being stored is roughly 360x480

PAL MW DVD is at 720x576 resolution and because it is anamorphic all this resolution is used up by the video.
Ali :baaa:

Ali, I guess you meant

“NTSC MW DVD is at 720x480 pixel resolution but the actual video information being stored in reality (the way MPEG-2 compression works) is much lower – say half the screen is black bars so in actual the information being stored is roughly 720X360 (you had it as 360X480).
PAL MW DVD is at 720x576 resolution and because it is anamorphic all this resolution is used up by the video.”

You lucky Brits. As above you get 60% extra resolution. This used to be typical of many Hollywood DVDs. On top of that, often, NTSC releases used to be interlaced and PAL releases were Progressively playable and thus 3 times better PQ than R1 NTSC. When you can get that, who needs HDTV.

If I decide to buy MW, it will be PAL DVD.

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As mentioned above,
R1, Monsoon Wedding is non anamorphic.

Is it Progressive or is it a PAL to NTSC transfer??

It's on sale at HMV @ 2 for $ 40 deal.
It's a good price if the DVD is at least Progressive. Otherwise R2 will be better even if no DTS in R2 disc.

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R1 MW is PROG!


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Thanks Arsh.

So, I'll pick up mine tomorrow along with Die Another Day and The Guru.
HMV is giving a promotional The Guru poster with the DVD purchase.

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GOOD DEAL!Supposedly, DAD..is being offered for $14.99 plus MADONA's free dVD VIDEO?



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arsh wrote:
DAD..is being offered for $14.99 plus MADONA's free dVD VIDEO?

Isn't "MADONA's free dVD VIDEO?" part of the extras in the 2nd disc??

Or, is it another Madona music DVD that they are giving??

Disc 1:
Aspect Ratio: Anamorphic Widescreen - 1.85
Audio:
Dolby Digital 5.1 EX - English
DTS 5.1 - English
Stereo Surround - French
Stereo Surround - Spanish
Additional Release Material:
Audio Commentary - 1. Lee Tamahori - Director, Michael G. Wilson - Producer
2. Pierce Brosnan - Star, Rosamund Pike - Star
Optional Subtitle Track - 1. Facts and Trivia
Trailer - 1. Bond Special Edition Catalog
DVD-ROM Features

Disc 2:
Additional Release Material:
Featurettes:
1. INSIDE DIE ANOTHER DAY
2. Title Design Featurette
3. Digital Grading Featurette
4. Animation Featurette
5. Making of "007 Nightfire"
6. Making of "DIE ANOTHER DAY" Music Video
Music Video - 1. "Die Another Day" by Madonna
Multiple Angles
Storyboard-to-Screen Comparison
Text/ Galleries:
Stills/Photos
DVD-ROM Features

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That is part of extras, on the second disc!, plus $2 COKE bottle too!! Way to go!!

to BOOST sales of DAD!!




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Another offer:

Offer details: Pre-order the Special Edition of Die Another Day (widescreen or fullscreen) online by 5/30/03 11:59 p.m. CT and receive a Best Buy exclusive bonus DVD plus a $5 coupon with your order. Coupon valid toward the future in-store purchase of any one of the 10 DVD titles listed above. Coupon valid 6/3/03 through 7/5/03. Coupon cannot be redeemed online.


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Yaar why do you guys insist on hijacking threads? I fail to understand why one cannot start a different thread if they wish to discuss something not pertaining to the topic of the existing thread. By the way, just incase you had not noticed this is the Monsoon Wedding thread and not a 'Die Another Day' thread.


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Sanjay wrote:
Yaar why do you guys insist on hijacking threads? I fail to understand why one cannot start a different thread if they wish to discuss something not pertaining to the topic of the existing thread. By the way, just incase you had not noticed this is the Monsoon Wedding thread and not a 'Die Another Day' thread.

Sorry for the mix-up Sanjay.
I just found a special on Monsoon Wedding and put in my enq to see if it's Progressive. When I found, that it's Prog, I replied back thanking Arsh and mentioned of other DVDs that I was to pick up. This turned into DAD and The Guru comments.

Let's hope this discussion doesn't get side tracked into a possible movie name 'Fall Divorce' or 'Spring Baby'. :D :D

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