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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:55 pm 
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Just borrowed this DVD for viewing.

I find PQ consistent with other EROS releases. It is pseudo-progressive (i.e. every 5th frame is a repeated frame).

PQ is not as good as DEI, that we already knew.

Still, I found PQ better than 4 theatrical showings that I saw ( 1 at Mayfair Ottawa, 1 Albion Cinemas, 2 AMC) and at par with I-Max. The yardstick I am using is that "Hara Rang Daala" song which has emerald green in this DVD but was brownish blue in the theatres. Also theatrical showings had dark faces, but are OK in this DVD.

I'm not saying how good this DVD is, but how bad the theatrical prints were.

Rana

BTW, Can anyone post the "Hara Rang Daala" scan from the DVD insert and the same screen cap from the DVD. Pic in the insert is a lot better.




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I think, rana ji!! overall, filming of this film was PLAGUED with some DARKNESS but the PRINT that I saw was MUCH/CLEANER and SHARPER and VIVID and BRIGHTER than what we r seeing on this DVD!!DVD is also transfered at very low bit rate, below 5 most of the time!!

Sound in my theatre was DOLBY SURROUND as theatre was EQUIPPED with DTS only and EROS did not send the DISC so we heard DEFAULT!!

SOUND is more AGGRESSIVE/OVERTLY BRIGHT on this DVD along with HOLOPHONIC ECHOY characteristics to the DIOLOGUES!!

I personally think it is EROS fault in REMIXING, look at SHAKTI, how IDIOTICALLY the MIXED the sound on that!

Pls. compare to two other recent GOOD SOUNDS..SUR and ROAD!! Just FABULOUS!!

Par ab" Roey kiya hovat jub Chidyan(lulla/eros) chug gaeen khaet" :baaa: :bangbang:


**** My final take!! EROS will definately try to VASOOL /RAKE more MOLLAH out of this film by releasing a COUPLE more EDITIONS, but I dont think we will c any BETTER TRANSFER or REMASTERING of this film? COST/vs EARNING""" does not SUIT! Mr: Lulla!! :baaa:

There was always a TALK after LAGAAN and OSCAR that a 2 DISC EDITION will come by CT!! but ? Nothing..it does not make SENSE to CT to GIVE US SUPER BIT lagaan or REMASTERED LAGAAN!

MIYAN unko lagaan bohat padta hai!! :ffs:

Do u think, EROS/LULLA is going to give us SUPER BIT DEVDAS????? MY FOOT!!


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I thought of trying to simulate the theatrical pic. To do that, I had to turn the Brightness control on my TV all the way to zero (factory setting is 31 on a scale of 0 to 62) and Contrast control to 15 (factory setting is 62 on a scale of 0 to 62) and it gave the same pic as in the theatres. This is how bad the Theatrical print/ projections in North America were.

Rana

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A friend of mine complained about multi-images in this DVD. The DVD is pseudo-progressive and there are no multi-images in any frame. What he noticed is (definitely) 6 (may be 12) Hertz content of repeated progressive frames noticeable in fast moving shots (curable in advanced HT set-ups). More on this vs. smooth viewing (thoroughly interlaced), later on, in another thread.




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is that song chand ladki in the dvd?


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Could someone please explain to me why certain pirated Devdas DVDs in the UK have access to an alternative ending of the film, but nothing of such is even considered for its original 2 set signature collection series ??? :ffs:

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Lulla!! has SAVED some things in HIS SLEEVE to RIP U OFF!! cintinuously in the FUTURE!!

Second Edition..alternate ending.
#rd Edition..woh chand jaisi ladki..song.
4th Editiobn..3 disc..with CDROM from INDIA added with POSTERS! kool!! :baaa: :stupid: :bangbang: :ffs: :angry:


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Love’s labour won By Subhash K Jha

Devdas made loads of money. It turned around the fortunes of the film industry while revising the aesthetics of mainstream entertainment. And yet Mumbai’s critics remained strangely impervious to the obvious and undeniable magic surrealism of Bhansali’s Devdas. Any praise for the film was instantly interpreted as PR-giri.

Much before the film actually made it to theatres, an attempt was made to trample over its finer points by the enlightened politicians and film industrywallahs who attended the film’s first public screening in Cannes. Excepting good old Karan Johar, they all returned with b----y comments on Devdas.

Taking a cue from a handful of European critics’ cynical and caustic comments on fountains in kitchens and chandeliers in hallways, the Mumbai presswallahs simply responded with Pavlovian precocity to one of the most dynamic and resonant filmmaking voices since Mehboob Khan and Raj Kapoor. The comparisons to Khan and Kapoor are only now surfacing with red-faced reluctance.

No film in the history of Indian cinema has been so deliberately misinterpreted in critical circles as Devdas. They accused Bhansali of distorting Saratchandra Chatterjee’s novel when in fact he opened up the literary route in a way that the earlier versions by Barooah and Bimal Roy couldn’t dream of.

While earlier films based on Saratchandra’s novel looked at life, love and death from the protagonist’s viewpoint, Bhansali dared to look at the tragic hero as an enigmatic and churlish man as seen by the two women in his life. When Paro and Chandramukhi dance in dazzling abandon at the Durga Puja they celebrate their mutual love for Devdas without surrendering to the intoxicating glamour of the moment.

Some colour-blind conservatives have described Devdas as “garish”. But hello? Which film and whose vision are they looking at? Though every frame of Bhansali’s exudes an emphatic glamour, not one artifact or emotion exceeds aesthetic limits. There’s a celebration of life and its colours. But there’s also temperance, restraint. Most of all, there are no loose-limbed episodes where audiences can stretch their taut nerves, let alone go out for a pee.

Have you heard of anyone strolling out of a theatre showing Bhansali’s Devdas? The relationship between the characters and their opulent milieu is so intimate that you wonder if the art director’s art is directed by his heart!

The storehouse of references, big and small, have all been bypassed by the “specialists” though the unqualified (read unbiased) viewer hasn’t missed a thing. There’s the sequence where the London-returned Devdas sees his precious Paro lounging under the moonlight for the first time. That’s Bhansali’s tribute to Guru Dutt’s Chaudvin Ka Chand. Remember Waheeda Rehman sleeping in the moonlight as Dutt sings Chaudhvin ka chand ho ya aftab ho?

Guru Dutt is a name that recurs repeatedly in Bhansali’s imaginative scheme. Devdas’s lingering pain echoes Guru Dutt in Pyaasa more than Dilip Kumar in Bimal Roy’s Devdas. Mehboob Khan, K. Asif, V. Shantaram and Kamal Amrohi (check out the kotha scenes with ‘Chandramukhi’ Madhuri Dixit to discern the reverberations from Amrohi’s Paakeezah). These are the filmmakers whose kaleidoscopic vision qualifies the way Bhansali’s sees Saratchandra’s lucid love lament.

And yet Devdas goes much further than the earlier classic epics on love and heartbreak. A number of sequences from Bimal Roy’s Devdas recur in the new-millennium Devdas. Each one transports Saratchandra’s tale far beyond the frontiers of human frailty to represent the magnificent tragedy of the human condition.

In Bhansali’s epic, when Paro steals into Devdas’ chamber at night to propose to him, she doesn’t shuffle in like Suchitra Sen. Aishwarya as Paro glides imperiously across the untainted night sky. Bhansali doesn’t show Aishwarya’s feet. She almost seems to be flying like a swan floating to its mate.

The poignant finale when a swift stagecoach (instead of a cumbersome bullock-cart) slices across the ominous skyline is unbearable in its tragic grandeur. Bhansali films this end-game like a suspenseful interlude. Will Paro make it across her in-laws’ forbidding gate for one last meeting with her dying lover? This is Devdas for an impatient generation who must be hooked to the tale of star-crossed love.

We’ve never seen anything like Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s Devdas. Ten years down the line it will be recognised as one of the enduring classics of commercial Hindi cinema.


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Exotic Devdas
We have learnt pertinent lessons on bigger issues fortunately. After sending innumerable, insignificant films, time and again, as India’s entry for Oscars, we snapped out of the narcissistic trend by selecting Lagaan last year. It was a decision everyone from the film industry and outside supported. This year, Devdas is the unanimous choice as India’s Oscar entry for the Best Foreign Language Film by the 16-member committee of FFI. After the overwhelming response that India’s first mainstream film invited to the recently held Cannes Film Festival, got this is yet another feather in Bharat Shah and Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s spectacular crowns. The foreign audience better get ready for India’s versatility. If Lagaan depicted rural India and delved on the perils of the peasant, Devdas elaborates on an exotic India and its immortal romances. Devdas stands for not just traditional customs and our rich culture, but represents music, dance, in fact, all the navarasas defined in the natyashastra that are sprinkled through our stories. It celebrates that pathos that all our literature is made of.


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and last one: :)

Bharat Shah confident of an Oscar nomination

By Roshmila Bhattacharya

Devdas is India’s official entry for the 75th Annual Academy Awards scheduled for April, 2003. A 16-member committee of the Film Federation of India (FFI) chose Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s epic extravaganza over Rajkumar Santoshi’s bio-pic, The Legend Of Bhagat Singh, Karan Johar’s family saga Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham, Mani Ratnam’s heart-tugging Kannathil Muthamittal, Arjun Sajnani’s period drama Agnivarsha and two critically acclaimed Bengali films, Sanjhbatir Roopkatha and Manda Mayer Upakanya.

The film’s producer, Bharat Shah insists that he was confident of Devdas edging out the competition because “after Mughal-e-Azam we had not produced a film of such grandeur, a film that excelled in every department from the sets, costumes and cinematography to Sanjay Bhansali’s assured direction and soul-stirring performance from a star-studded cast”.

Shah plans to start his Oscar campaigning in a fortnight’s time. “Money,” he maintains, “will not be a problem.” But he doesn’t plan on pumping dollars unnecessary either. Or hyping up the film too much.

Shah has his sights set on the British Academy Of Film & TV (BAFTA) Awards, the Golden Globe Awards and the Directors Guild Of America Awards. “If we can bag a couple of awards or certificates of merit at these prestigious festivals that are a follow-up to the Academy Awards, then our chances of winning an Oscar nomination will be really bright. Ninety per cent of the battle will be won,” says Shah, revealing his grand plan.

Last year, Aamir Khan and Ashutosh Gowariker spent almost six months in the UK and US campaigning for Lagaan that was one of the five films nominated for the Oscars. It narrowly missed out on the coveted statuette, losing out to Bosnia’s No Man’s Land. Shah at the moment is not making any travel plans. He insists that even without him his director, artistes and overseas distributor will do a good job of selling his Rs 50 crore production to Academy members who decide on the Final Five.

Eros International are planning to release Devdas as a mainstream film in the US in January. The film is being dubbed in English and French and later in Japanese too. The new cut will be a shorter version of two-and-a-half hours without the Shah Rukh, Jackie, Madhuri medley ‘Chalak chalak...’ However, the Academy will get to see the full two hours 45 minutes opus and Shah is confident they’ll love it. “In Cannes it got brilliant reviews, didn’t it?” he reminds you. Not if the Indian journos present at the festival are to be believed. They insist that the international press present at the French Riviera found the film too loud, kitchy and melodramatic. “We Indians have a tendency to run down what is our own. Irrespective of what these guys tell you the fact is that the French loved the film,” Shah says forcefully.

Both Shah Rukh and Aishwarya have huge fan followings in the UK and US too. Is Shah planning to use his stars to campaign for the project the way Aamir Khan did for Lagaan? “Sure, Aishwarya and Shah Rukh are very popular stars and they will surely help the film. But eventually, I think, what works with the Academy is not star power but the story, performances and the direction and that’s where Devdas will score over our past Indian entries,” avers Shah.

There was a time when the industry called the film an “extravaganze” and scoffed at Shah for taking a foolish risk. Today, the producer asserts that every rupee was worth it and at Rs 50 crore Devdas came cheap.

The film, according to the trade, has already done a business of Rs 65 crore and, Shah insists, that it continues to make the cash counters jingle. “In India even a superhit film doesn’t do a business of more than Rs 50-60 crore but overseas if it catches on in a big way, the way Devdas has, the sky is the limit,” asserts Shah. He is confident that in its language versions the film will find a bigger audience in the UK, US, France and Japan and go on to do a business of Rs 100 crore and more. “We have also still to sell the satellite rights of the film,” he adds. “And if it wins an Oscar or even an Oscar nomination business will only go up.”

Meanwhile, Shah is getting ready to announce his next film, in early December. He is tight-lipped about the project but insists that it will be “very big”.


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Jha has hit the NAIL ON THE HEAD. "pr-giri" is precisely what he's been doing for bhansali's devdas since before its opening. and why not? few folks even remember that it was jha who goaded bhansali into remaking devdas several years ago. jha's reputation - and ability to serve as bhansali's eternal chamcha - rested open the critical and box office success of devdas.

so he's been hyping it to kingdom come, while the rest of the wold keeps arguing it's great cinema, but not a classic. get over it jha. and while we're at it, get over it nahata too.

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Independent DVD review of Eros Devdas;

Eros has provided a pretty decent 2-Disc dual layer DVD presentation of this movie. On Disc 1, we are given a near flawless 2.35:1 anamorphic widescreen picture with some minor grain. A major gripe of mine is that the sharpness and contrast could've been way better, but this is as good as it gets with Eros. For such a new movie and one that is mostly visual based, I expected the print to be much better; sadly it's not. The audio provided is a very excellent Hindi Dolby Digital 5.1 that just pulls you into the turmoil. Subtitles are mostly very good and clear, but are slightly large. On Disc 2, the extras included are "Behind the scenes with Shah Rukh Khan and the rest of the cast, taking you through the making of this grand motion picture. Also provided is a World premier at the Cannes Festival in France with the cast giving some interesting comments about themselves and the movie (Apparently, Shah Rukh would like to play an Indian James Bond), a short piece about who's who in Bollywood, Trailers and a special 10 minute preview, and forthcoming Bollywood attractions. Rounding out the extras are a collection of best scenes from the stars' biggest hits. - by Daniel Nguyen

Source: http://www.kfccinema.com/reviews/drama/ ... evdas.html

(there’s also PAL Metrodome Asoka review on the site]

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"Near flawless"? Near disaster's more like it.


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will there be a second version coming out soon and what will be the diffrence? or will it go the k3g way and the second dvd will come out on july12 03 :keh: :hmm: :keh: :hmm: :hmm:


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i was talking to this guy from eros and he said the dvd was autherd by warner bros. and there will not be another version realesing do u guys think he is telling the truth :hmm:


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DVD was authored by Shemeroo and replicated by WAMO (USA) and VDC (UK)! Gee even the staff at EROS don't know where there own products come from? Shows you there uniquness for customer service...quick give me the job of Head of Video and DVD at EROS :bash:


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