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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 5:44 pm 
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yo there seriously is a SPELLING MISTAKE on it???

that's just sad... :ffs:


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I think I'll wait until this is on one of those 2 in 1 sets with another movie I haven't seen, then i'll think about getting it. :p


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asif Posted on Oct. 19 2002,12:57
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hey my bro dvd collector

i'm glad i could i could fill ur day with a bit of laughter but on more serious note do u agree that no matter how much we slag off this dvd the fact is we are all going to buy it and EROS are not going to listen to anything we have posted maybe its time someone with a considerable IT knowledge could do some serious damage/fun with EROS website just to make a point !!!


No asif,
i will not buy it, absolutely not
and no i don't have hi-end system either, but i never buy more than one dvd of the same film, be it indian film or american
and i wasn't expecting much from EROS anyways, so this dvd quality is not a shock
i have not bought anything by eros, video sound, spark, yashraj films in a very long time now, since they only provide with one crap dvd after another
in fact, i have not bought any indian dvd in almost a year now!
at this time i am just sitting back and hoping that the dei people have a come back and make better dvd's than before, just hoping though :p
anyways, i already sent my e-mail to eros expressing my disgust with their dvd products
i urge all of you to do the same, don't be too nasty though, just let them know we want to see good quality, and there stuff is not good quality at all :bangbang:

ps: have you guys been to the eros website, they are so proud to have state of the art this and that, and they can't even make a single decent dvd, it pathetic




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ASIF! miyan, rEST aside! aap ka ghusa bajaa!! EROS per, but HUM aur AAP sab(the rest) MADAR C* kaise hogaey!?
Kuch samajh maen nahin aaya!!
The other people r practically r more screwed up than uR KINDSELF!
U still have a CHANCE! to BUY, CHEAPER, 2 for one, even in hALF PRICE!! :baaa: ??? :angry:


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Hiya Guys
I must say i was eagerly awaiting the DVD of Devdas as well and judging by the screenshots it seems that the assholes at EROS have just messed everything up. Those Menu's look so 'out dated', I am sorely dissapointed that a movie of this calibre gets messed up like this. There should be a law against Eros. I just wished they did not acquire the DVD rights. I just cannot put my dissapointment into words. I wonder what Sanjay Leela Bhansali has to say about this. We have waited nearly three months for this DVD and this is the crap we get plus a spelling error on the cover!!!!!!!!!!! :ffs:

Sorely dissapointed
Aadil


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I wanted to add that the "Devdas" (official Eros) DVD is not crap. On a scale of 1 to 10 for Indian and Eros DVDs I give it a 7 or 8 maybe even a 8.5. But the DVD is NOT CRAP as those who haven't even seen it yet state. I just watched the dances on a component TV and it looked pretty good.
I have to say that I watched this movie 4 times in the theater at two different venues and 2 of those times the prints sucked. I think that this DVD has better quality than the theater prints I saw! There is soo much 'mood lighting' in this movie and complex set 'texture' in the set design. This movie is a DVD transferer's nightmare because of all the intricate details. The reds and whites in "Dola Re..." are a compression mind f*ck. All in all this DVD is worth seeing but the price $$ is too high! They are charging an arm and a leg.

It is good to be super critical and ZULM is on the forefront of wanting to see the state of Indian DVDs improve as the should. I don't think readers should take all of the critical opinion to mean that something is crap. I was critical of the Devdas DVD in an eariler post. It could have been better. (I think LOTR DVD could have been better) Every DVD could use improvement.


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my dear ARSH bhai my abuse of the english lang is always directed at EROS any other times its in good nature with my fellow friends here at this forum anything i say in bad lang to u guy's is an affectionate expression that i have for u all :love:

only when it concerns a bad dvd like the ones from EROS do i really get serious :ffs:


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I have my own story to tell, unfortunately. The store that I normally rent from is where I like to buy my dvds from as well. So, the store owner has bought about 30-40 Devdas dvds as that many customers had been requesting them. We got our copy in the evening, bring it home and open it. The dvd with the movie is off the spindle and scratched! We played only the songs and some of them were freezing for a moment and then moving along.

This morning, I took everything back to my store and showed him the dvd. He opened another brand new one in front of me and sure enough, this one also had the main dvd off the spindle. But it is not scratched. So, I brought that one back. I asked my store owner whether he is able to return the defective dvd and he said, "no, they are very rude and mean and will not take back any dvds that are defective" My store owner has to absorb the loss.

I am just so angry by this whole episode. Why is there no quality control at all? I am definitely going to write to Eros but I have no hopes of them paying any attention.


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Bastardo... thand pay gaye....!!

BTW why is this thread a sticky.... surely there is more to life than the DEVDAS disk, like the millions of palestinians suffering from persecution in their own land by the Infidel!! :ffs:




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byronicman wrote:

Byronicman.. I can see that your pôst here makes it look like that EROS could not do anything more than this and they gave us their BEST effort. Please do not compare the "bad" quality of LOTR with the "bad" quality of this Pathertic Devdas DVD...
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I think that this DVD has better quality than the theater prints I saw! There is soo much 'mood lighting' in this movie and complex set 'texture' in the set design


Are you serious abt that statement ? :D Or maybe I need to get my eyes checked :) And finally what you saw in the theatre was a "FILM"... what you see here on the DVD is something that has been encoded from a Video Master !
As for the textures..maybe you should take a look at it once again...
I am aghast at ur giving this DVD such a high value when all it deserves is a 2.0 as there is no excuse to bring out a good dvd of this film as this is just a few months old and no excuse (like " its hard to get a print") will hold any bearing...

Can you see the contrasts... A sanjay Leela Bhanshali film (Devdas) butchered when compared to anothere Sanjay Leela Bhanshali Film (HDDCS).... Or maybe you should check the comparison once again :)


MHafner is a professional reviewer of DVDs and I am pretty sure he will concur with my views abt this Pathethic piece of shit that we call a DVD :angry:


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This is Texture :D

For ByronicMan's eyes only :D :D :D
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For those of you who still have some doubts...

On your regular Interlaced TV sets (the so called Low end systems) or on your computer when viewing the dvd in an auto-select mode.. you will see images like the one shown below....(Flickering due to the occurence of double images)
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On your High Definition Digital TV sets (the so called High end progressive systems) or on your computer when viewing the dvd in a force weave mode.. you will see images like the one shown below....(Combing )
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sknath wrote:
...And finally what you saw in the theatre was a "FILM"... what you see here on the DVD is something that has been encoded from a Video Master !

Not necessarily from a video master – it can be from a film master but not flagged (2:3 pull down) properly in encoding as Michel Hafner has mentioned on his review of Na Tum Jaano Na Hum. If this is true for NTJNH case it’s possible that many of recent Eros releases are in fact from film masters with problems originating from the encoding process – the improper flag encoding.

From the looks of the screen shots it’s a typical Eros DVD – no better or worse than previous Eros efforts like Humraaz, Na Tum Jaano Na Hum and Shakti DVDs.

Ali




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byronicman wrote:
It is good to be super critical and ZULM is on the forefront of wanting to see the state of Indian DVDs improve as the should. I don't think readers should take all of the critical opinion to mean that something is crap. I was critical of the Devdas DVD in an eariler post. It could have been better. (I think LOTR DVD could have been better) Every DVD could use improvement.

You should probably check out the LOTR Extended Cut DVD when it comes out. Spread over 2 discs, the 208 minute film has DD and DTS 5.1 tracks and 4 audio commentaries. Here is an excerpt from the DVDfile.com review:

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In terms of transfer quality, I compared the bit rate of the same five scenes between the theatrical and extended cuts, and both clocked in at about the same rate. The Extended Cut is easily on par with the previous released, boasting a wonderful, three-dimensional quality to rival the best transfers. (It also has a more smooth, film-like quality that it's big competition this year for top demo disc, Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones.) The print is pristine with nothing at all to distract, save for a bit of minor grain here or there, but surprisingly minimal for a film shot in Super35. Color reproduction is rich and vivid, with perfect fleshtones and - the real true test of any great transfer - wonderful and lush greens. Blacks are perfect, contrast excellent, and shadow delineation wonderfully detailed and sharp.

If there is anything I can complain about, it is that just like the theatrical cut, sometimes the film appears a little dark, leaving the grimy interiors looking a tad murky and undefined. Contrast also looks a bit blown out, but this appears consistent with the intended look of the film and match the theatrical cut. Overall sharpness and detail also equals the theatrical version, which isn't surprisingly given the similar bit rates. I did again notice some minor halos around the most sharply contrasted of objects, but there are no compression artifacts to speak of. New Line again has delivered the goods and continues to impress with the most consistently fine transfers of any studio around.


Even with all this on 2 discs, the word from advance reviews of the box set is that the audio/video quality is nothing short of amazing. For a studio not to be able to come close to this sort of quality on shorter films shows either complete ineptness, extreme pennypinching, or plain laziness on their part. Devdas may be 3 hours long, but perhaps some of those compression artifacts could have been avoided by splitting the film onto 2 discs (instead of the useless second disc they included) and by caring about what the product looks like.


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DragunR2 wrote:
Devdas may be 3 hours long, but perhaps some of those compression artifacts

Hey Dragun, fully agree with you. And as Ali has stated above it "most" likely is from a film source but which has not been properly flagged. (This is tantamount to bad encoding procedure)... As such compression artifacts doesnt arise. They can become a factor if a very low bit rate is used for encoding.
Also notice the fact that HDDCS was also a 3 hr long movie but it was neatly fit onto 1 DVD effortlessly by DEI....

Ali I agree with ur reasoning that this is "on-par" with other releases from EROS, lately. But There is still a subtle difference between them and Devdas, and that being, this film got a proper release here in North America and is also being showcased in a major retail outlet here in North America (BlockBuster)...
This DVD , thus, needed a special treatment.... Hell I remember yoru reviews abt DDLJ which Yashrak had released. In retrospect I will say that DDLJ is way ahead of this Crappy Devdas DVD.


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DEVDAS- bit rate3-5mbp!! :bangbang:Lulla sara dum laga diya DAMN daba!! tayae kaene maen, ke whole product DABA hogaeey! :angry:



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