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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2001 12:48 am 
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Well, this is how the pirated K3G DVD cover looks. (Ripped from AVSonline)

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WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT QUALITY OF PIRATE DVD OF K3G. SOME OF THE POSTING HERE RING INTEREST IN BUYING THIS PIRATED CRAP. IF YOU ENJOY PIRATED DVDS MORE POWER TO YOU JUST DON'T SPREAD THE GERMS.


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Hey stormy, sometimes if pathatic DVD companies like Eros, Video Sound, and YRF's can't provide us the quality DVD that sometimes pirated DVDs succeed in doing. Than, we as smart consumers, seek for the best and might as well go for pirated products. I'm not saying that the K3G pirated DVD contains good DVD quality, actually, come to think of it, its really shit. But if we really enjoy a certain film, and we want to view it in the best picture DVD quality provided, and if DEI doesn't master the DVD, than we might as well go for the pirated. Read the link below to get a better understanding of what I mean.

http://www.zulm.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=1029

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hmm this looks to be a different pirate version then the full screen one,a friend described the cover to me and it is totally different,he said that the full screen version has the whole family pic in which they are all wearing white.maybe this one is in widescreen hopefully :where:


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DVD COLLECTOR THANK YOU FOR REFERRING ME TO THE LINK BUT I DON'T NEED TO READ IT AS FOR ME THERE IS NO QUALITY IN ANYTHING PIRATED. END DOES NOT JUSTIFY ONE'S ACTION. LET ME ASK YOU THE STORE FROM WHERE YOU PURCHASED YOUR PIRATED K3G IS FOR SURE CARRYING OTHER PIRATED DVD'S WOULD YOU REPORT IT TO THE LOCAL LAW INFORCEMENT OR NAME IT IN THE LIST AT ZULM FOR STORE TO AVOID?


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hey stormy, agreed that pirated issued products are not the way to go, but you know what? If pirated copies such as M:K provide a better source of DVD quality than most originals, than i wouldn't give pirated DVDs too much of a bad name, as Ali says in old link, "A pirate slap in the face of the legit DVD authors". And things like this should make original DVD authors realize that there is competition out there inwhich they must meet and improve on. DEI is the only company that has proven again & again that they provide the Best in DVD quality. Other major companies lack to complete with DEI standards and get away with big brand name films with crap DVD quality. And sometimes, these exact same high brand name films come out on pirated DVD with a better DVD quality than the legit (ie. Mohabbatein, KKHH). From the point of view of economics, pirated DVDs should be neglected at all cost. But from the point of view of personal satisfaction and getting the best for my money's worth, if the pirated issue contains better quality than the legit, than i'm definitly going for the pirated DVD. :sly:

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Hello.

Have any picture from the dvd of k3g.


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hmm this looks to be a different pirate version then the full screen one,a friend described the cover to me and it is totally different,he said that the full screen version has the whole family pic in which they are all wearing white.maybe this one is in widescreen hopefully


Hey Vjmajic2002, the DVD is full screen sadly with the subtitles burnt in and cut off the edges.



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man i hope the people who did lagaan,mohabbatein and mission kashmir do this movie aswell!!


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Hopefully :D


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i just seen a VHS pirated version of K3G at the local video shop and to tell u the truth it was very good for a VHS print! it was full screen with burnt on subs and had clear sound on it, even though it was a bit echo-ie!! the situation with this this movie has reminded me of the pirated situation with KKKH!! I still got my pirate copy of KKKH becase it was very good... it was a flipper and had the movie in fullscreen on one side and was in widescreen n the other!! :)


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i just seen a VHS pirated version of K3G at the local video shop and to tell u the truth it was very good for a VHS print! it was full screen with burnt on subs and had clear sound on it, even though it was a bit echo-ie!! the situation with this this movie has reminded me of the pirated situation with KKKH!! I still got my pirate copy of KKKH becase it was very good... it was a flipper and had the movie in fullscreen on one side and was in widescreen n the other!! :)

The pirated version of the VHS you saw Faddy was the copy they probably made from the DVD which is what I saw as well. My local retailer recorded it from DVD as well, infact does it all the time. The print of K3G is good only bad side is the that it is full screen :( hope a good pirated one comes out in widescreen b/c god know when the original will actually come out a.k.a. DDLJ Fiasco !

KKHH, I also had that disc, f/s one side and w/s on the other. The contrast was high on the movie and pixellated. When I first got this disc I loved it mainly b/c of the f/s and w/s flipper aspect.


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hey stormy, agreed that pirated issued products are not the way to go, but you know what? If pirated copies such as M:K provide a better source of DVD quality than most originals, than i wouldn't give pirated DVDs too much of a bad name, as Ali says in old link, "A pirate slap in the face of the legit DVD authors". And things like this should make original DVD authors realize that there is competition out there inwhich they must meet and improve on. DEI is the only company that has proven again & again that they provide the Best in DVD quality. Other major companies lack to complete with DEI standards and get away with big brand name films with crap DVD quality. And sometimes, these exact same high brand name films come out on pirated DVD with a better DVD quality than the legit (ie. Mohabbatein, KKHH). From the point of view of economics, pirated DVDs should be neglected at all cost. But from the point of view of personal satisfaction and getting the best for my money's worth, if the pirated issue contains better quality than the legit, than i'm definitly going for the pirated DVD. :sly:

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Well DVD collector we all have the right to express our opinion on the subject of piracy as long there are folks who patronize
pirated stuff this market will continue to flourish. You are justifying your action based on economic's & quality and I'm justifying based on principles. No hard feelings as it's okay to disagree and have a different pov.


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stormy wrote:
Well DVD collector we all have the right to express our opinion on the subject of piracy as long there are folks who patronize pirated stuff this market will continue to flourish. You are justifying your action based on economic's & quality and I'm justifying based on principles. No hard feelings as it's okay to disagree and have a different pov.

Interesting view to have – I only hope the people in charge of DVDs one day will hold the same principles as you stormy ;)

I did put that story up on the front page to let people know there is an official DVD in the works. It's plainly clear that its not good enough telling people time and time again to wait for official DVD – its simple doesn’t work! They have no incentive or the patience to wait. Especially when the same bullshit over and over is given over quality and end product never meets its expectation. It’s not good enough to blame the end consumer for piracy - naming, shaming, targeting them wont help the situation.

If there is huge hype to the film, people want to see the film by all means necessary. Not all people have access to cinemas or don’t go cinemas (age, generation thing, economics, convenience etc). So there’s a demand for the film and pirates are created and will be sold. You have to question how these DVDs are being created, mass duplicated and in many cases distributed through the same channels as legit DVDs? So how are they? ???

If YRF took the initiative and made the extra effort, a single DVD of K3G could have been released same time as cinema release. This is not to say compromise on quality on this DVD (or given its history, quality issue is just a joke with them anyway). It arguable if this would effect K3G box office collections – but evidence would point to not.

So since there is pirate out on the market and people regardless of its being wrong or right are snapping it up – what are YRF doing about it? options are;

1 – target retailers who are selling these pirates and find the source of these pirates. Find, eliminate and prosecute. Would sound like a sensible thing to-do – but is it going to happen? My guess no – too much time, effort, resources needed. They just cant be bothered and take the cheap option out – which is to tell the consumer not to buy the pirate and if you do buy it you’re a bloody thief and will burn in hell! :rolleyes:
2 – release the official DVD ASAP – we all know the score on this one (ala Mohabetein & DDLJ) – its just not going to happen. Why? Again could be because of limited resources and genuinely want to get the DVD right ( :stupid: )... or it could be cos...
3 – they have no incentive to release the official DVD just yet as they are busy recouping money made on the hot selling pirate DVD of K3G! :p

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Interesting reply Ali, here I'm supporting Stormy. Some how I have some difficulty digesting the explanation that people buy pirated DVD's because they have no incentive or patience to wait. On one hand we have been casting stones at companies like Baba,Samrat,Videosound,EROS among others for either marketing sub-standard or bootleg DVD's but on the other hand some have a long list of explanations as to why one buys a pirated DVD's. For me this is one of those issues that requires one to take sides,there is no middle between right and wrong. Lack of action on YRF's to curb piracy of K3G should not be viewed as approval for folks to run out and grab a copy of K3G.

I also do not agree with the explanation that if YRF releases K3G and other hot titles there will not be such a rush for people to buy pirated DVD's. I'm sure you are aware Hollywood classic's like ET,Starwars,Indiana Jones trilogy are yet to be released on DVD. I'm sure there are some pirated versions floting around but you don't see chats on internet where to get the pirated DVD version of these? or folks rushing to buy pirated version of these classics here in USA or UK. So what makes indo-pak folks so impatient and others patient for the legit versions.

Just the other day I was at a desi video store and a guy came in with a DVD of Teesri Manzil demanding either a refund or exchange he did get a refund because he read somewhere of this DVD missing parts of the movie. The point I'm trying to make is i might be in minority in this issue but it takes one to make a difference.

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