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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:07 pm 
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i have just spoke with spark and they are coming out with the dvd soon ,they are looing for suggestions on how to get the best dvd out you can contact me on this forum i will relay the message.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:29 pm 
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You say that you spoke to Spark do you have any proof of this if so
could you please share the contact number(s) because the ones I have have been cut off and I dont think thats true because Spark shutdown in July 2006/7 and they have NOT released any new DVD's

Most of there dvds have been crap I cant see the Blu ray being any better

Spark going into Blu Ray thats BAD NEWS God save blu Ray :lol:

Besides Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam is/was a DEI BEI dvd for USA and APOLLO UK Apollo UK sold the BEI copright to Spark as Apollo were the sole copyright holders for this in the uk before them Tip Top had DEI copyrights I'm not sure if Tip Top had HDDCS


Tell them at least 1 thing we dont want Blu Ray like Spark
DIL CHATA HAI so what I'm saying is that they should not be using cheap media like thay have been doing with dvds

JAT


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:46 pm 
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we know spark had closed down since 2006 but they are re launching with blu-ray dvds .i have his personel mobile number which i dont want to disclose unless he gives permission to disclose to you .i will ask him .
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silverfox
if you think you can do better then i suggest you buy the rights and do it yourself .


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:52 pm 
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silverfox wrote:
if you think you can do better then i suggest you buy the rights and do it yourself .


Did I say I could do a better job :?

Spark will mess it up, I dont think they are going to be re launching
JAT


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:57 pm 
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keep watching this space then u will be surprised .

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:12 pm 
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Is this still Anil Chaprya were talking about?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:16 pm 
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i thought it was Mohan Chhabra Anil Chhabra must be his son or brother

They also went by the name
Fair Deal Entertainment

And if you look at some of there first made dvds like Rakshak you will see FD DVD on the cover which means Fair Deal they have been Chors from the start

Sengh_15 do you have any contacts with them
JAT


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:05 pm 
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No I dont

They used to be on the name of FD, Senco and Spark

If they do end up doing blu-rays I would like to see some of the old titles like Sadak, Kabzaa,
Naam and Naajayaz.

Plus these sound like new owners, Blu ray doesnt sound like the old spark


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:55 am 
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I'll give master to farooq to do the honor instead!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:43 am 
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The reason Heyy Babyy is looking (apparently) good (have not seen it yet) is that it's brand new and from a digital intermediate source. That is the rare exception for all Bollywood films since the dawn of time that could be released in HD. Do not expect other Bollywood HD to look good because it's HD. There are unfortunately some technical reasons that most of them won't look good unless some serious money is spent on mastering.
There are hardly any mint film masters. Top quality requires that the camera negative is scanned. The negatives are mostly in bad shape since they were used for making release prints and/or stored in suboptimal condition (if not lost anyway). They are dirty, have scratches, tears, speckles etc and often bad edits that create scanning problems and flashing tops and/or bottoms. If used the color grading has to be redone and some serious digital clean up work is necessary. If done properly it's expensive. The market won't support this for now as a profitable enterprise.
If film elements are used that were made from the negative, even if they were made optimally and well preserved, you take a resolution hit compared to the negative. And finding such elements (well made, well preserved) is probably unrealistic for most Bollywood films.
If there are only prints around you can forget about good quality. Telecined prints look poor unless you really have state of the art equipment to get the most out of them.
Add to that all the things that can go wrong when subpar film elements are digitally processed to make them look 'better' in ways that make it all worse (the norm for most DVDs, Bollywood or Hollywood) (sharpening, grain reduction...).
Finally you need high quality compression which requires experienced compressionists working with top equipment, not some Mac and some 500$ encoder.
I expect new films and some from the last 2-3 years with a DI to look good to very good. I expect the rest to look mediocre to poor.
Hum Dil belongs to the second category.
Wel'll see.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:37 pm 
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There are unfortunately some technical reasons that most of them won't look good unless some serious money is spent on mastering.


bottom line! There SD from HD masters suck big time too, look at Don, OSO


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:07 pm 
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Zoran009 wrote:
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There are unfortunately some technical reasons that most of them won't look good unless some serious money is spent on mastering.


bottom line! There SD from HD masters suck big time too, look at Don, OSO


Don HD looks quite good (what I have seen). German DVD is ok too.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:07 pm 
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OSO (DVD authored by Jet Speed Audio Mumbai) is good. The other DVD of OSO authored by whomever sucks.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:58 am 
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mhafner wrote:
Zoran009 wrote:
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There are unfortunately some technical reasons that most of them won't look good unless some serious money is spent on mastering.


bottom line! There SD from HD masters suck big time too, look at Don, OSO


Don HD looks quite good (what I have seen). German DVD is ok too.


Where have you seen Don HD? Is it expected out on Bluray soon?

thx


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:38 am 
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raj0321 wrote:
mhafner wrote:
Zoran009 wrote:
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Where have you seen Don HD? Is it expected out on Bluray soon?
thx

question 1: No comment
question 2: No


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