ya ‘sarkar’ was a brilliant film, I have already seen it twice and plan to go catch it one more time in theatres. this film is definitely must see

and it seems even the critics luv it aswell - it got 7 five star reviews!!!

http://www.allbollywood.com/blwd/html/movie162.shtml

now that is impressive!

Saw the movie on Sunday as well. Thought that it was a very nice movie. Well made and keeps your interest throughout. Amitabh did a commendable job as opposed to all the inconsequential roles he plays nowadays. Abhishek has improved though he was good only in patches.

This film nicely completes the suite of gangster films from RGV, all from different perspectives.

The theater was only half full but got very good response from the crowd. Mainly young crowd. The typical desi audience of families was missing. If you do not dislike mob related movies, you will certainly like this movie. Some people in the theater felt the film was too slow. I actually felt that the movie moved too fast in the beginning. But then it settled into a nice pace. I can undesrtand why some godfather fans may not have liked the movie - there were some changes to the script.

There is indeed an overdose of mobster flicks from RGV's Factory. However, all the films directed by him are special and generally more refined than those by the new directors. RGV has to realise that if his factory has to be successful, they have to make films of different genres not just horror and mobster flicks.

Anyway Factory is a really bad name for a film company. Film making has more to do with art rather than any assembly line, which this word reminds me of.

I don't completely understand what you are trying to say - Sarkar was definitely not a ghissa pita role for AB, and the father-son relationships portrayed in the film are not the usual happy loving family that was sickeningly done in Baghban (not seen Waqt yet, but it looks like more of the same).

Ram Gopal Verma has beaten this genre to death now. This is the absolute last gangster film from him that I'll tolerate. As his tribute to Coppola's "masterpiece", it's a mess. At the same time, I can't say I was severely disappointed, neither did I like it, it's somewhere inbetween to be inexact. I read an interview of Verma's not too long ago where he said that he considered himself an "expert" on the analysis of the Godfather trilogy. Well, I don't think I'm an expert on the trilogy, but I strongly feel against his interpretation of what it means to him. What Sarkar was immensely lacking was a good screenplay writer (Anurag Kashyap anyone?), and this is coincidently suggesting since I just saw Black Friday yesterday and feel that Kashyap is probably the most inventive screenwriter in India right now, where Verma is probably the most open-minded director in Bollywood right now. You put the two together, you get a Satya (and to a lesser extent, Kaun?). However, it doesn't seem that history will repeat itself here since both let their personal ego's direct their future.

P.S. Katrina Kaif is freking gorgeous!

Sallu bhaii, has GOOD EYES!

Indeed!! Why cant he make fresh films, like Kaun, but no more Satya!!PLS

Couldnt agree more....this is Verma's worst movie perhaps in recent years....well not as bad as RAAT or BHOOT but as a master of the underworld genre Verma has begun to take his audience for granted and gives a really stylish but totally phony product !

It is never clear how SARKAR makes his money...is he a gangster, protection racketeer, pimp? Too many plot holes and too many half-baked characters....its a pity that Verma's become so self centered as to focus only on the pizazz and not the meat'n'potatoes of story telling. This was very evident even in NAACH.....I liked the chemistry between the Bachchans in BUNTY AUR BABLI over here. Kay Kay frankly is wasted....what a confused character he portrays...he's neither Sonny Corleone nor is he Freddie! To me NAYAKAN was the nearest that came to being a tribute to THE GODFATHER! Heck even ATANK HI ATANK was a more earnest copy ! (ouch do I hear the flame throwers approaching ?

well let me just begin with my opinion: i enjoyed Sarkar quite a bit. unlike some of you, i didn't go in with the view that this would be an exact copy of the Godfather. RGV himself in the beginning says, many filmmakers have tried to make Godfather. this is my tribute. keyword: TRIBUTE. he can make it any way he wants...it doesnt have to be anywhere closely related to the Godfather. just enough to be a tribute. and RGV had that. a story about a family in power. he hit it right with this one. sure not as good as Satya or Company but still nice. And no, RGV is not done with the 'Gangster' genre. He is said to experiment with the idea of a movie based on the roles of women in the underworld.[/b]

I didn't personally dislike the film as much as you probably do, but I see your point, and it's just partly why I also feel that the film drags without sophistication. Ultimately, I think Ram Gopal Verma has that disposition to establish what he ambitiously wanted with Sarkar, but he essentially fails to recognize the importance of a good screenwriter for his films. For the former reason, I think Verma is the least misused director in popular Indian cinema for a tribute to the Godfather trilogy, and is marginally (I believe) successful with Sarkar.

P.S. Anyone who has seen Sarkar remember if the film even has a screenplay writer? I don't recall seeing one listed during the opening credits.

manish gupta... the same guy who wrote 'd'

‘nayagan’ was a horrible film imo. I would say the best indian ‘gf’ tributes were thevar magan/virasat, ramu’s ‘gaayam’ and now 'sarkar'

Wasnt THEVAR MAGAN a totally different genre? Did you mean a different film? I have not seen(or known) about GAAYAM...would like to catch it if a subtitled DVD exists. Do you know?

My frustration with SARKAR stems from the fact that its a RGV product. Knowing the fact that he really understands the medium so well, he could have used it better. As I said in my post, its a highly stylised and efficient product, but one that only tantalises the senses without really giving the satisfaction of a wholesome meal. A little like being asked to dinner and then being served only 'papad' for 2 hours (apologies for a shoddy analogy). I came away with a lot of 'papad' taste in my mouth and a little undigested at that (never mind that it may have resulted in reality from having eaten too many nachos and cheese)!

Bottom line, it is not by any means the end of Ramu the film maker. I can make out he's experimenting with things. Unfortunately for him and us it has not really worked too well the last couple of films....I for one think COMPANY was a terrific film. Maybe SARKAR also needed a sutradhar like COMPANY had.....that may have been the difference. Like everyone else, I continue to wait to see his products with anticipation.

Thats a pretty bold statement - can you elobarate ?? . BTW your choice of Thevar Magan is excellent , not many seem to see it as a 'GODFATHER' inspiration.

Well!! WHATEVER I repeatedly said!!

" GOD FATHER like film are trademark of south and they have done GOOD JOB with that!"

aarkayne dude all this meat, potatoes and papad talk is making me hungry

but abt ‘sarkar’, I luved it for what it was

and I agree w/ bw bhai, this was ramu’s tribute and thus he chose what he wanted to focus on
and anyone who has seen the film (or seen the countless interviews ramu did before the film) will know that the family relationship (between sarkar and his two sons) is what ramu decided to focus the film on.

check out this article, if you don’t know what I am talking abt - http://in.news.yahoo.com/050608/57/5yvk9.html

anyways it mainly showed how this one family managed to stick together despite many others (including sarkar’s own son) trying to break them apart - this was the so called ‘meat n potatoes’ of the film

‘sarkar’ was more a family/drama than it was a crime/drama

and thus there was no need for ramu to go into any great detail abt sarkar’s criminal history or dealings

in fact the group of baddies (the fab 4 - zakir husein, raju mawani, kota & jeeva) just basically popped up here and there to create trouble but the focus always remained on the family

your one statement alone clearly shows that you were looking for something in the film which clearly wasn’t there nor intended to be there



remember ‘company’ was “an exposé of the mumbai underworld” NOT ‘sarkar’

though I think you would really like ramu’s masterpiece ‘gaayam’ - it is what you are looking for - an underworld saga influenced by ‘the godfather’ - though sorry dude I don’t know if it is available on dvd




dvdisoil

dude, I have never been a fan of ‘nayagan’ - to be honest the film bored me to death

and not to mention kamal’s brando act was really phony

I would have much preferred a straight varada biopic from ratnam - now that would have been interesting!



that is because it is well adapted (into the village setting). but ya I agree it is one of my fav films. and speaking of great films I also luv ‘virasat’ - darshan, anil and amrish did such a great job with the remake - it is one of the few cases where the remake is as good as the original

anyways to continue what bw bhai started - ramu does plan on making more underworld films - I was watching an interview with him on tv, when he was doing promotion for ‘d’, and he has already said he has 2 more underworld films in the works - both of them sound amazing

the first - this will be a film on low level shooters. ramu was saying that most of the underworld films he has made dealt with the guys on top. this one however will however focus on these low level shooters - the guys who actually carry out suparis(contract killings) and bump off industrialists, politicians, other gangsters etc… these guys work either on a ad hoc basis(mercs) or are loyal to a particular gang - this one should be really interesting

the second - will be abt women in the underworld - ramu said he had seen a news report abt the growing number of women in the underworld and he thought it would be a interesting topic to tackle - I definitely agree

I'm with Mola Ram on this.

I was lucky to have caught Sarkar in the theaters last night. It indeed is a B-Grade theater, small screen, erratic sound, even then I thoroughly enjoyed this film - start to finish! I want to watch his "Govinda Govinda" movie now!! lol

Big B & Lil B - fantastic. Kota is "too funny". No words for Ramu! Thank goodness for him! FFC would be proud! Should he catch this before he kicks the bucket. There are only a few similiarities to Godfather, which is what was intended.

Can't wait for James!

If they are still playing at your local theaters, go watch it! I drove 3+ Hours in insane LA traffic to watch this film, and well worth it!!

Sill haven't watched Company. Don't want to watch on Crappy zEROS DVd I might have to. I might just wait till it shows up on HD media??