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All in all, Paheli is an attempt to create a classic Rajasthani album.

Lot of people are quoting this as Rajasthani album. Not sure if Rajasthani sound lot like telugu/tamil folk albums, but the entire album is a repetition of MD's own work and heavy influence from IR tamil & telugu albums.

As far as the sales goes, this CD is flat to dead now. Hopefully ad and how well the song goes with the movie will decide the commercial success of this album.
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That could be good as well as bad for the movie because majority of the population likes fast-beat or conventional albums.


this could very well be the reason I stopped caring/listening to hindi music :roll: because "conventional" or "fast beat" these days in hindi film music means emulation of english pop music :evil: lacking nativity in every which way possible. this includes the film itself.
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dvdunlimited wrote:
Not sure if Rajasthani sound lot like telugu/tamil folk albums, but the entire album is a repetition of MD's own work and heavy influence from IR tamil & telugu albums.


which south indian MD isn't influenced by IR? I'm not suggesting this as a bad thing. every new musician in the world picks up from the influences of the past :) even though IR will always be "evergreen" (past/present/future).
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That could be good as well as bad for the movie because majority of the population likes fast-beat or conventional albums.


this could very well be the reason I stopped caring/listening to hindi music :roll: because "conventional" or "fast beat" these days in hindi film music means emulation of english pop music :evil: lacking nativity in every which way possible. this includes the film itself.


That was what I didn't like about Musafir. Its a Western dance club techno album with Hindi lyrics.
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DragunR2 wrote:
Pav wrote:
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That could be good as well as bad for the movie because majority of the population likes fast-beat or conventional albums.


this could very well be the reason I stopped caring/listening to hindi music :roll: because "conventional" or "fast beat" these days in hindi film music means emulation of english pop music :evil: lacking nativity in every which way possible. this includes the film itself.


That was what I didn't like about Musafir. Its a Western dance club techno album with Hindi lyrics.


same here!! I think bollywood films/music is cursed with western remix, techno, vulgarity and unfortunately it sells and our youth etc are hooked to this.
Dhoom, KHNH( Karan started the trend, borrowing from hollywood, remixing with hindi lyrics, twisting arms of his music directors to do it his way)Kaal, Aitraz Remix, Mussafir etc, all reshmiya's latest albums are utter rubbish and crap.

Good music is good music, original and fresh.It is ofcourse unfortunate that DU is not selling it!
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arsh wrote:
DragunR2 wrote:
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same here!! I think bollywood films/music is cursed with western remix, techno, vulgarity and unfortunately it sells and our youth etc are hooked to this.
Dhoom, KHNH( Karan started the trend, borrowing from hollywood, remixing with hindi lyrics, twisting arms of his music directors to do it his way)Kaal, Aitraz Remix, Mussafir etc, all reshmiya's latest albums are utter rubbish and crap.

Good music is good music, original and fresh.It is ofcourse unfortunate that DU is not selling it!

I disagree, the infulence of western pop on Bollywood music has opened more doors of creativity for this facet. This isn't to suggesst that India is more headed towards the "American way" of doing things while leaving behind an unperfected rooted style. I believe it's more to do with defying the Universal age of "pop-culture" era. With the rise of artists whom competently follow this ideal like Rahman, SEL, JazzyB, Lucky Ali, Sagoo, Raghav, Sukshinder Shinida, and the UK/desi connection Jay Sean, Rishi Rich. The sounds of Indian music is becoming more "hip" quite frankly. Infact, there are many old hindi film songs that I never gave a damn about till DJ Love has been remixing them.
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DVD Collector wrote:
arsh wrote:
DragunR2 wrote:
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same here!! I think bollywood films/music is cursed with western remix, techno, vulgarity and unfortunately it sells and our youth etc are hooked to this.
Dhoom, KHNH( Karan started the trend, borrowing from hollywood, remixing with hindi lyrics, twisting arms of his music directors to do it his way)Kaal, Aitraz Remix, Mussafir etc, all reshmiya's latest albums are utter rubbish and crap.

Good music is good music, original and fresh.It is ofcourse unfortunate that DU is not selling it!

I disagree, the infulence of western pop on Bollywood music has opened more doors of creativity for this facet. This isn't to suggesst that India is more headed towards the "American way" of doing things while leaving behind an unperfected rooted style. I believe it's more to do with defying the Universal age of "pop-culture" era. With the rise of artists whom competently follow this ideal like Rahman, SEL, JazzyB, Lucky Ali, Sagoo, Raghav, Sukshinder Shinida, and the UK/desi connection Jay Sean, Rishi Rich. The sounds of Indian music is becoming more "hip" quite frankly. Infact, there are many old hindi film songs that I never gave a damn about till DJ Love has been remixing them.


No doubt dude! DJs are flourishing and remixes are doing wonder for the buisness and retailers. That is the only thing they want to carry :lol:
Kaanta laga re haan re haan :roll: :baaa: :nopity: :keh:
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first of all, a big :roll: to dvd collector. raghav, please :P if i want gay american pop, there's plenty of it to go around, don't need anymore thanks.

second and last, there is a fine line between indian film music and club music. the current trend of hindi film music tries to cater to both, but fails to cater either one.
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Well, I hope Moonch and Pagda will save the day for SRK and Paheli! :?: :idea:

He insisted last minute additions of Shetty, Ab, and Juhi..plus etc etc!to make his product marketable!
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Just to chime in here, Paheli is a good album but still nothing I would listen to over and over again. I think when all is said and done, Dheere Jalna will be the song that remains with me and it is one of the best songs of the year. Still, I would rate Bose and Parineeta above Paheli. Paheli for me is more on the Lucky, Shabd, etc level.
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Pav wrote:
first of all, a big :roll: to dvd collector. raghav, please :P if i want gay american pop, there's plenty of it to go around, don't need anymore thanks.

second and last, there is a fine line between indian film music and club music. the current trend of hindi film music tries to cater to both, but fails to cater either one.

f*** you.
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first of all, a big :roll: to dvd collector. raghav, please :P if i want gay american pop, there's plenty of it to go around, don't need anymore thanks.

second and last, there is a fine line between indian film music and club music. the current trend of hindi film music tries to cater to both, but fails to cater either one.

f*** you.


Miyan arsh...yeh Kya hua !!!! DVD_C ne...F word use kiya :shock:
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Miyan arsh...yeh Kya hua !!!! DVD_C ne...F word use kiya :shock:

O God sknath. You don't need to act like someone who gets shocked everytime they read the word "f***". What would ever happen if you saw a French Connection label? :o


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Pav wrote:
first of all, a big :roll: to dvd collector. raghav, please :P if i want gay american pop, there's plenty of it to go around, don't need anymore thanks.

second and last, there is a fine line between indian film music and club music. the current trend of hindi film music tries to cater to both, but fails to cater either one.

f*** you.


Miyan arsh...yeh Kya hua !!!! DVD_C ne...F word use kiya :shock:


I was wondering that too!!
Man he seems badly hurt from that reply! :?: :idea: :roll: I wonder why :?: :idea:

Yeh hai ek paheli :wink:
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The sounds of Indian music is becoming more "hip" quite frankly. Infact, there are many old hindi film songs that I never gave a damn about till DJ Love has been remixing them.


It’s cool the way music artists are remixing some of the olden Hindi songs!

There is good pop western Hindi remix music and bad ones. Just like there are good classical Bollywood music and bad ones. Musafir was bad English/Hindi pop remix music, on the other hand Main Hoon Na, Lucky Lips, Nazar have fairly decent remix songs.

The point is there is variety in Bollywood music. Some people prefer easy listening and others go for Traditional, folksy, rustic, original, funeral type or whatsoever.

There’s plenty in Bollywood to please every ear.
Good Traditional music is fine to my ears also, but when I want to partaay,.. it’s time to Shava, Bhangra, and Balle down with Raghav, Sukhbir, Johar’s music!! 8)

My arguement wasn't explicitly in defense of Musafir music(I loathe this album), but with artists who've I've mentioned above that create a sort of paradigm shift in the age of Indian popular music. I have nothing against with people relaxing to the music of the Kishore Kumar, R.D./S.D. Burman era. But to condemn the existing paradigm shift as a mode of something inartistic is unsettling to me.
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