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arsh wrote:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0120632/

I have seen this film, I dont remember it has the same story!!
Or may be I am senile? :idea: :lol:


In City of Angels, DeathAngel Nicholas Cage, (one of the DeathAngels), helps Meg Ryan escape death or revies her with his powers?? Obviously, he falls for her and wants to be human. Now, the deal is that to become human, Angel staus and immortality is to be given up.


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rana wrote:
So, is City of Angels inspired from this story or is this story inspired from "City of Angels??

Which came first??


"City of Angels" is a remake of an earlier german film "Wings of Desire" (1987) - a beautifull film with a stellar DVD from MGM (R1)

http://imdb.com/title/tt0093191/

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=6750


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rana wrote:
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PAGDI KA DOST, sounds like CASPER

http://www.bollyvista.com/article/a/30/4797


You mean City of Angels??


Paheli is based on a legendary story 'Duvidha' written by literary Statwart Vijaydan Detha.

So, is City of Angels inspired from this story or is this story inspired from "City of Angels??

Which came first??


dvdisoil wrote:

"City of Angels" is a remake of an earlier german film "Wings of Desire" (1987) - a beautifull film with a stellar DVD from MGM (R1)

http://imdb.com/title/tt0093191/

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=6750


So, was Duvidha written by Statwart Vijaydan Detha prior to 1987 or did he copy from Wings of Desire??
And if Duvidha was written prior to 1987, did Wings of Desire steal Detha's story??


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rana wrote:
So, was Duvidha written by Statwart Vijaydan Detha prior to 1987 or did he copy from Wings of Desire??
And if Duvidha was written prior to 1987, did Wings of Desire steal Detha's story??


I am not familiar with Duvidha or Vijaydan Detha - if he is a well known writer pardon my ignorance :oops: , but on a larger note the "concept" of non-humans ( ignoring animals) such as gods falling in love with puny humans is age-old. In Indian mythology ( someone correct me if I am wrong) Lord Shiva fell in love with Parvathi who was daughter of a king , Similar stories exist in Greek/Roman mythology also. Also, As noted in the DVDTALK review ( see footnotes) parallels can also be drawn with Arthur C Clark's Childhood Days ( published early 1950s )

Since the "story" itself is an age-old fascination of men, I don’t care who copied whom as long as the "way" it was copied is fresh !


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Who's distributing the film? YashRaj or Eros


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Music is out!! has been listening since yesterday.

It will surprise you all, it is nothing like any thing that Karem did before!!

Happy Listening 8) :P

1. Dheere Jalna - Sonu Nigam, Shreya Ghoshal

2. Kangna Re - Sounu Nigam, Shreya Ghoshal, Madhushree, Bela Shende, Kalapini Komakali

3. Khaali Hai Tere Bina - Hariharan, Bela Shende

4. Phir Raat Kati - Sunidhi Chauhan, Sukhwinder Singh

1. Minnat Kare - SHreya Ghoshal, Madhushree, Bela Shende

2. Dheere Jalna [Instrumental]

3. Laaga Re Jal Laaga - M.M Kreem, Sonu Nigam, Shruti Sadolikar

4. Phir Raat Kati - Sunidhi Chauhan, Sukhwinder Singh


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This album would have been a winner...had not a certain Parineeta also released at the same time.
I had to listen to Parineeta again to get over the feel of this album... Sorry folks...its Parineeta time now... no other album comes closer

The album is good for ppl who appreciate Folk music....not suitable for ppl who are into more "urbane" music.... I wonder whats happening with Gulzaar lately... has he lost his magic touch ? Or he can work best only with a certain set of music directors ?( RDB in the past, Vishal Bharadwaj and ARR ) ?.. disappointing fare :(


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I wouldn't call Paheli a disappointment at all. It's role was to provide a folksy soundtrack for a movie with a rural setting and it certainly provided that.....MM Kreem obviously got some help with arrangments, not everyone is an ARR that can do it themselves.

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good music, good albums are not always commercial imho.

Boss, is a recent example along with Raincoat!

Well, there will be ones, who will have gutts to say that music from those 2 albums..sucks!!

Paheli..I wish SRK should not start selling as commercial film, and I never thought Shyam Benegal or Amol Palekar are commercial johar, chopras or farah khan, david dhavans! :idea:


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My personal opinion - music is one of the worst from SRK in recent years. The instrumental is a horrible one. I felt like watching some of Kunnakudi's kiddish play (in between his actual performance, kunnakudi used to talk to people in violin, the instrumental sounded similar). I liked Parineeta and Nazar a lot better.


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dvdunlimited wrote:
My personal opinion - music is one of the worst from SRK in recent years. The instrumental is a horrible one. I felt like watching some of Kunnakudi's kiddish play (in between his actual performance, kunnakudi used to talk to people in violin, the instrumental sounded similar). I liked Parineeta and Nazar a lot better.


So, I guess that explains the price incresed from $3 to $4 lol :wink: :idea: 8)


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no no no no... TSeries prices have increased. For e.g. their usual CD price in India is Rs 90 and Phehli (named right!) is Rs 150. So..

Few (lucky) people pre-ordered and I will honor their order.


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Paheli

By Joginder Tuteja, May 09, 2005 - 1040 hrs IST



Yes, movies with mammoth starcast, reputed names, big production values and a superstar at the helm can be made in a jiffy - and without much noise ! 'Paheli' is an apt example of one such venture that has everything which is sufficient to create immense hype. Shahrukh Khan, Big B, Rani Mukherjee, Suneil Shetty as a stellar starcast. Red Chillies Entertainment (SRK's home production) as the presenters. Gulzar saab and MM Kreem handling the music. Ravi K Chandran as the cinematographer. And last but not the least, Amol Palekar directing his first mainstream commercial movie. With all these factors combined together, it is commendable to see the movie being shot and completed in record time and being made ready for release.

When Gulzar saab writes, people listen. And when MM Kreem is in charge of the compositions, one expects some trademark soft'n'soulful melodies. Class is prevelant in the opening number 'Dheere Jalna' that is sung amazingly well by Sonu Nigam. One is reminded of the 60s era while hearing this song that is rich lyrically. Inspite of a Rajasthani setting, the tune has a Bengali flavor. Shreya Ghoshal makes an appearance towards the middle of the song and reinstates the belief that she is an immediate threat to Alka Yagnik. While Sunidhi Chauhan is having multiple hits when it comes to peppy numbers, Shreya Ghoshal is busy rendering melodious tracks one after another. This one is another hit to the names of Sonu and Shreya. 'Instrumental' of 'Dheere Chalna' too is different from the routine instrumentals and makes a good impression with violin holding the centre stage. Drum beats throughout the track gets the passion alive on the screen.

Classical music forms the base of yet another hummable track 'Kanga Re' that is sung by number of female singers - Shreya Ghoshal, Madhurshree, Bela Shinde and Kalapini Komakili. Sonu Nigam is the only male voice in this song that clearly brings out the Rajasthani ambience of the movie. A clean entertainer that sounds simple, it would have required hard work from the composer and lyricist to create this song. Choreography is eye pleasant too while Rani Mukherjee looks great in her getup.

'Phir Raat Kati' is the shortest song in the entire album and so far the most enjoyable of all the songs heard so far. Mark these words - it is going to be sensation when the number comes on the screen ! Fast paced track based on Rajasthani folk music, it is commendable to see MM Kreem fuse it so well with contemporary style. Sukhwinder Singh is good in his full throated Rajashtahani accent while Sunidhi Chauhan is a revelation (yet again) as she enlivens the proceedings with her spirited rendition. The song gets repeated and deservingly so as you won't get tired of hearing this one ! This is one of the best songs composed this year so far.

After a breathless (literally) 'Phir Raat Kati', 'Laaga Re Jal Laaga' is the 'Ghanan Ghanan' (Lagaan) of 2005. Still an original number, it is about rains coming down and is sung well by MM Kreem, Sonu Nigam and Shruti Sadolikar. Unlike the previous three tracks, this one is more of a situational song rather than of a kind that you would go home singing.

MM Kreem's favorite instrument (Violin) is back in force at the beginning of 'Khaali Hai Tere Bina Dono Ankhiyan'. Hariharan and Bela Shinde bring out the pain associated with separation from the loved one and give a certain class to the 'dard-e-judaai' genre. A slow track, it is a good listening in an isolated dark room. But don't try playing it when you have friends at your place for a Saturday evening outing. It won't fit in the mood !

'Minnat Kare' is an all-women song that has a group of girls educating their friend on how to show some 'nakhras' when her lover comes knocking her doors. Lyrics are the mainstay of this track that keeps you interested in the proceedings and makes you look forward to seeing the song on screen. Sung by Shreya Ghoshal, Madhushree and Bela Shende, the number has various shades associated with it. Another situational track, it too has a classy appeal that should strike chord with the lovers of good music; though it may not exactly attract the front benchers in single screen theatres.

'Paheli' has one of the most original and classy score for a SRK film. Though it may be a surprise for his hardcore fans, for the folks who like to hear mainstream songs based on classical music, it should be an enriching experience. In fact it comes closer to recent score of 'Parineeta' that also boasts of rich Indian music. For those expecting a typical Bollywood score with SRK, it is time to look at 'Paheli' differently. This is a complete contrast from the 'Kaal Dhamaal' that King Khan has created recently !

Rating: ***




I totally agree, it will be hard digest for srk fans who liked chalte chalte, mhn and kaal dhamal..kinda albums.

Also fans of lucky lips and sexy kurti should stay clear from this album

miyan nath this one is not for weak hearts! :lol: :idea: :?:


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Paheli

By Joginder Tuteja, May 09, 2005 - 1040 hrs IST



Yes, movies with mammoth starcast, reputed names, big production values and a superstar at the helm can be made in a jiffy - and without much noise ! 'Paheli' is an apt example of one such venture that has everything which is sufficient to create immense hype. Shahrukh Khan, Big B, Rani Mukherjee, Suneil Shetty as a stellar starcast. Red Chillies Entertainment (SRK's home production) as the presenters. Gulzar saab and MM Kreem handling the music. Ravi K Chandran as the cinematographer. And last but not the least, Amol Palekar directing his first mainstream commercial movie. With all these factors combined together, it is commendable to see the movie being shot and completed in record time and being made ready for release.

When Gulzar saab writes, people listen. And when MM Kreem is in charge of the compositions, one expects some trademark soft'n'soulful melodies. Class is prevelant in the opening number 'Dheere Jalna' that is sung amazingly well by Sonu Nigam. One is reminded of the 60s era while hearing this song that is rich lyrically. Inspite of a Rajasthani setting, the tune has a Bengali flavor. Shreya Ghoshal makes an appearance towards the middle of the song and reinstates the belief that she is an immediate threat to Alka Yagnik. While Sunidhi Chauhan is having multiple hits when it comes to peppy numbers, Shreya Ghoshal is busy rendering melodious tracks one after another. This one is another hit to the names of Sonu and Shreya. 'Instrumental' of 'Dheere Chalna' too is different from the routine instrumentals and makes a good impression with violin holding the centre stage. Drum beats throughout the track gets the passion alive on the screen.

Classical music forms the base of yet another hummable track 'Kanga Re' that is sung by number of female singers - Shreya Ghoshal, Madhurshree, Bela Shinde and Kalapini Komakili. Sonu Nigam is the only male voice in this song that clearly brings out the Rajasthani ambience of the movie. A clean entertainer that sounds simple, it would have required hard work from the composer and lyricist to create this song. Choreography is eye pleasant too while Rani Mukherjee looks great in her getup.

'Phir Raat Kati' is the shortest song in the entire album and so far the most enjoyable of all the songs heard so far. Mark these words - it is going to be sensation when the number comes on the screen ! Fast paced track based on Rajasthani folk music, it is commendable to see MM Kreem fuse it so well with contemporary style. Sukhwinder Singh is good in his full throated Rajashtahani accent while Sunidhi Chauhan is a revelation (yet again) as she enlivens the proceedings with her spirited rendition. The song gets repeated and deservingly so as you won't get tired of hearing this one ! This is one of the best songs composed this year so far.

After a breathless (literally) 'Phir Raat Kati', 'Laaga Re Jal Laaga' is the 'Ghanan Ghanan' (Lagaan) of 2005. Still an original number, it is about rains coming down and is sung well by MM Kreem, Sonu Nigam and Shruti Sadolikar. Unlike the previous three tracks, this one is more of a situational song rather than of a kind that you would go home singing.

MM Kreem's favorite instrument (Violin) is back in force at the beginning of 'Khaali Hai Tere Bina Dono Ankhiyan'. Hariharan and Bela Shinde bring out the pain associated with separation from the loved one and give a certain class to the 'dard-e-judaai' genre. A slow track, it is a good listening in an isolated dark room. But don't try playing it when you have friends at your place for a Saturday evening outing. It won't fit in the mood !

'Minnat Kare' is an all-women song that has a group of girls educating their friend on how to show some 'nakhras' when her lover comes knocking her doors. Lyrics are the mainstay of this track that keeps you interested in the proceedings and makes you look forward to seeing the song on screen. Sung by Shreya Ghoshal, Madhushree and Bela Shende, the number has various shades associated with it. Another situational track, it too has a classy appeal that should strike chord with the lovers of good music; though it may not exactly attract the front benchers in single screen theatres.

'Paheli' has one of the most original and classy score for a SRK film. Though it may be a surprise for his hardcore fans, for the folks who like to hear mainstream songs based on classical music, it should be an enriching experience. In fact it comes closer to recent score of 'Parineeta' that also boasts of rich Indian music. For those expecting a typical Bollywood score with SRK, it is time to look at 'Paheli' differently. This is a complete contrast from the 'Kaal Dhamaal' that King Khan has created recently !

Rating: ***




I totally agree, it will be hard digest for srk fans who liked chalte chalte, mhn and kaal dhamal..kinda albums.

Also fans of lucky lips and sexy kurti should stay clear from this album

miyan nath this one is not for weak hearts! :lol: :idea: :?:


Thats why Miyan arsh....along with Kaal, I have since deleted this album :D


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Its a nice album, but I wish MMK had gotten a little more creative with the arrangements. Perhaps the authentic folk style fits with the film. I sure hope so, because on its own it isn't something I'd listen to repeatedly. I think MMK is a little overrated anyways. Haven't been impressed with his Tamil or Telugu albums that I've heard either.


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