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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:47 pm 
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Arsh, I can honestly say I have never used a chapter insert to navigate through a movie :D

EE aside, this is better than anything from the other companies so I'm not complaining too much.


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Arsh, I can honestly say I have never used a chapter insert to navigate through a movie :D

EE aside, this is better than anything from the other companies so I'm not complaining too much.


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Despite Professor and Sohni Mahiwal (and others) BEI DVDs claiming to be "Same Transfer as Shemaroo" are turning up Progressive :), where as, Shemaroo DVDs are Interlaced.


why are you hung up on this. same transfer as in same telecine from shemaroo. bei reformat and in some cases making it prog, anomorp and lacing it with dnr, ee and what not ( god knows why, it doesnt do anything except distort the video) and change the art work and menu and lastly making you happy :roll:


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Clipper wrote:
rana wrote:
Despite Professor and Sohni Mahiwal (and others) BEI DVDs claiming to be "Same Transfer as Shemaroo" are turning up Progressive :), where as, Shemaroo DVDs are Interlaced.


why are you hung up on this.


Not hung up, but just a clarification. For long time, many posts were speculating whether BEI versions really are same transfers as previously available interlaced DVDs or not. Finally it got cleared and I posted. :)


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Not hung up, but just a clarification



go back to the sohni mahiwal thread where the speculation first started
i mentioned there that bei is using the exact same shemaroo telecine ( hence same transfer) and later said that they reformatted reencoded or whatever you will employing their famous and tested voodoo ( you know what) tried it on zulms to make you happy should have been clear to you then cant understand what took you so long lol


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Clipper wrote:
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Not hung up, but just a clarification



go back to the sohni mahiwal thread where the speculation first started
i mentioned there that bei is using the exact same shemaroo telecine ( hence same transfer) and later said that they reformatted reencoded


This still is speculation. Now we know and is not a speculation. We, at leat I, know now that BEI Professor is usual DEI/ BEI encoding and hence can go ahead to buy it.

Anyway, let's make this thread interesting:
It'll be interesting screen shot comparison between Shemaroo Professor and BEI Professor. Any volunteers??

Moreover, I can see that BEI Professor screen caps are not as good as BEI Purab Aur Paschim.
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Purab Aur Pachhim



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But, that can be due to variation in screen cap capturing and further processing. It'll be nice to recapture this Purab Aur Pashchim shot along with Shemaroo Professor and BEI Professor and then compare/ comment on them.


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hence can go ahead to buy it.


it may appear to be old dei/bei style but it still have to pass the test of time ( time bomb disc? ) if it freezes then we know for sure hehehehe lol


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Clipper wrote:

i mentioned there that bei is using the exact same shemaroo telecine (hence same transfer) and later said that they reformatted reencoded or whatever you will employing their famous and tested voodoo ( you know what) tried it on zulms to make you happy


Yes, it does make me happy when I see a better encoding that's got a higher bit rate because of needing to record 25% less video fields. Moreover, Progressive players have easier time to re-create original film frames using flags from the encoding. Why not??


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vido fields


think you mis-spelt VOODOO :lol: please make correction


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rana wrote:


Moreover, I can see that BEI Professor screen caps are not as good as BEI Purab Aur Paschim.
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Purab Aur Pachhim



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But, that can be due to variation in screen cap capturing and further processing. It'll be nice to recapture this Purab Aur Pashchim shot along with Shemaroo Professor and BEI Professor and then compare/ comment on them.


Similarly, BEI Aayee Milan Ki Bela is mentioned in another thread to be same transfer as Shemaroo. It'll be useful to get a screen shot comparison, with all screen caps going through same processing.

Same transfer with different processing/ encoding may make a difference in final product?? BEI DVDs typicaaly have higher bit rates, even if using same transfer as same DVD by another company, and they end up using/ giving us over 7.5 GB. I have seen lots of DVDs using up just over 5 GB where as aprox 9 GB is available on a 2 layer DVD. I wonder why do most DVD makers not use higher bit rates to use up full disk space?? On the other hand, does it make any difference to have a higher bit rate even if using same transfer?? This can be seen/ settled by screen shot comparison.

One thing comes to mind. Can 2in1 DVDs and other copies that shrink data of the original DVD be labelled as "Same Transfer"??


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vido fields


think you mis-spelt VOODOO :lol: please make correction


I wish there was spell check available on zulm??
I have seen this suggestion before, but if I remember correctly, Ali had said that it's not possible/ easily done.

Well, untill then, clipper you are most welcome to spell check/ grammer check for me.


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rana wrote:
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vido fields


think you mis-spelt VOODOO :lol: please make correction


I wish there was spell check available on zulm??
I have seen this suggestion before, but if I remember correctly, Ali had said that it's not possible/ easily done.

Well, untill then, clipper you are most welcome to spell check/ grammer check for me.


you are most welcome my fine feathered friend





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Same transfer with different processing/ encoding may make a difference in final product??


they most certainly do make a difference it could be better good or bad depending how much or little voodoo stuff is used. little voodoo stuff is good.....too much voodoo stuff is bad...... no voodoo stuff is better....


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Late, but finally got my copy of BEI Professor. I liked the print. It's 24P Progressive, Audio 2 Ch at 224 kbps and video bit rate between 5 and 9 mbps, mostly above 6 mbps.

When comparing, side by side, to old time DEI SAATHI (among the best DEI DVDs), one may find some difference in print quality, but going by my recollection BEI Professor seems as good as DEI SAATHI.


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armaan wrote:
The print is not very clear during Aawaz Deke song


I think all other DVDs too have the same problem.


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Ultra has got Professor now. I'm sure that it's crap transfer!


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