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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 5:52 pm 
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http://www.idreamdvd.com/telproduct.asp?pID=736&c=94741

Shivamani (DTS & DD 5.1)
Actors: 'Forever Young' Nagarjuna, Asin, Rakshita
Category: DVD
Brand: iDream

List Price: $17.99 Now: $13.99



Other Dvd's of Interest:
Nenu Pelliki Ready $13.99
Chantigadu $13.99
Missamma & NTR's LK $22.98







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Own this DVD and find out why many in the film industry thought the DTS audio mix in this movie is one of the best they heard in Telugu Cinema


DVD Features: Progressive 24 fps video, DTS®, Dolby® Digital, Anamorphic Widescreen, Subtitles, Play All Songs, Jacket Picture, DVD Text


Director: Puri Jaganath
Producer: Danayya - Bhagwan
Music: Chakri

Shivamani (Nagarjuna) is a honest cop in Vizag. He falls in love with Vasantha (Asin), a beautiful lady who aspires to become a singer. There is a mafia guy called Dutt (Prakash Raj), whom Shivamani troubles a lot. Incidentally Vasantha is distantly related to Dutt and both of them belongs to Kerala. In the meantime, Shivamani's mother (Sangeeta) gets paralyzed. Shivamani and Vasantha take her to Kerala to get the treatment of Kerala's Ayurveda specialists. In the process, Dutt gets back to Kerala and he is on the mission to weaken Shivamani by getting Vasantha away from him. The rest of the story is all about how he gets back Vasantha with the help of a newspaper's editor Pallavi (Rakshita).


Soundtrack

Rama Rama

Mona Mona

Yenaatiki

Sun Sun

Goldurangu

Yelo Yelo


iDream DVD Collector's Pick: Forever Young Nagarjuna and his charm makes this a worthy movie to own. Add to that, couple of very good songs and you have a very neat entertainer in Shivamani. The Digital Surround Sound in this movie will bring 'life' to your home theater.


** I came across this DVD! as I like NAG ARJUN!! It is indeed Anamorphic/ PROG with DTS/DD, and AUDIO ONLY songs option..supposedly done by PARSAD!Music sounds decent too..I have sent screen shots to UL, if he can do us another favour posting them, as ever..many thnx

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:01 pm 
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UL, where are u lol? did u get them, ? ali bhaii, are u awake? :baaa: and available?


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Thanks to Arsh for the shots.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:31 am 
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This dvd has bit rate from 4-6MBPS, same as BOYS! but BOYS, show more motion artifacts and pixellation on motion, esp some songs! etc.

Overall..I think, these Sothern prog dvds with anamorphic transfer, DD/DTS/Dolby Stereo and 3+ hrs length of the feature has been CRAMPING too much DATA by PARSAD, with LOW BIT rate explaining, some flat looking PQ, and artifacts!

BTW! SHIVAMANI's DD sound track is excellent and IMHO, DTS sound track, is not NECESSARY on COST of GOOD VIDEO!

This DVD does not show any grain! like KAAKA KAAKA!

But lacks sharpness, color fidelity, contrast, glossy look for a properly authored PROG DVD direct from NTSC telecine!!

I think, PARSAD need to figure out, WHY it is like this?

Boys, even has EXTRAS/COMMENTORY added to the same POOR DVD9 DISC..

If this trend is to be continued, with my humble apologies to pros, these dvds should go DVD18 route or use 2 discs at least!

But by reducing DATA whether Parsad can come up with GOOD LOOKING dvd, yet to be seen..

It is a GOOD/ENCOURAGING start and effort by IDREAM/Ayangran to improve their quality by giving NTSC telecine!!
But it is UNFORTUNATE these DVDS still dont look GOOD!/SATISFACTORY imho!

** Dragun, I'll see if I could post some shots from VIRAMUNDI..laterz..


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:59 am 
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Judging from the softness of the shots it looks like a typical Hindi DVD :shock:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:00 pm 
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I can say, it's much better than many Hindi DVDs. I will definetely work with Prasad and do few more DVDs without withour DTS and see if it improves.

BTW, if any of you get chance please check out iDreams Missamma, Chantigadu and compare them with Shivamani and let me know your feedback. We did those DVDs in different way and want to know if they came out any better.

iDream's next DVD is Sathyam and it too has DTS/DD5.1 but the colors are vivid and picture sharpers. But there is grain which is visible more during coludy scenes and scenes with lot of white background. Maybe, if we opted out of DTS, it would have made a difference.

Unfortunately, for us in South we have only two options to author DVDs and I can say Prasad is easily the best option down in South. If more customers prefer the older quality from them. It can be done but it will not be Progressive 24fps.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:09 pm 
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wowie :oops: :twisted: :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:08 pm 
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kits wrote:
If more customers prefer the older quality from them. It can be done but it will not be Progressive 24fps.


Introduction of proper method should improve quality, not degrade it.

It's only a matter of getting things right and it won't be long before you fix the problems encountered in your Progressive DVDs.

Don't abondon the Progressive encodings.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:34 pm 
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rana wrote:
kits wrote:
If more customers prefer the older quality from them. It can be done but it will not be Progressive 24fps.


Introduction of proper method should improve quality, not degrade it.

It's only a matter of getting things right and it won't be long before you fix the problems encountered in your Progressive DVDs.

Don't abondon the Progressive encodings.

Rana


u r right abt it. The old system is something they used and mastered for a while. They will take time to figure the new one. I personally found the picture of Shivamani is softer than it should be but the grain almost is non-existant (at least on my 61" DLP)! So, on our next title we asked them to make the picture to be little sharper with more vibrant colors. They rightly did it and it came out very good but grain is seen during cloudy scenes and scenes with full white background.

They believe that can be elimated too on our next title if we do just DD5.1 and not both. So, we will experiment that. Hopefully, with few more releases they will perfect the new system. The first title they did with it is Kaakha Kaakha!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 10:23 am 
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hi
one thing about bit rate is max bit rate DOES not mean best picture it is a blind notion it all depends on how they are encoded some super bit dvd
forget PRASAD for a minute have bit rates of 7mbps avg for video compared to their older counterparts the double disc sets(standard relase) which clock around 5mbps avg but superbits still look equal or few times worse than the orignal movie issues as they have filtering DNR etc etc rarely do they look better applied than the original disc unless a new transfer is used yu can get very good dvd video at 6mbps avg per second the lord of the rings 2 disc sets are an example see how good they look i dont want compare our stuff here in movies with LOTR but i hope yu get the point .just wathcing swarna kamalam and other evp stuff clocking at 6 mbps average with such beautifull picture quality .it all depends on how yu encode and how many passes yu make in the encoder to reduce data rate and get the same pic q as the encoder starts packing data better on each pass .u can use 8mbps the limit of DVD for video but not have good stuff if u use DNR edge enhancement to sharpen a picture and a bad source if a decent telecine transfer is made and proper 2:3 encoding is done then the tearing artifacts will all but dissappear in the but the most basic of prog players comments please


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I agree that higher bitrates doesn't promise better pic quality. I read somewhere that Columbia's recent excellent transfers have low bitrates.


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Columbia's Superbit DVDs aren't leaps and bounds better than DVDs from other studios that include some extras. The only Superbits I own are Lawrence of Arabia (1st version was botched) and Punch Drunk Love (only version available). Superbits are better than the original discs, but only because those were made 5-6 years ago and were single layer.

Lakshmant, seeing these latest Ayngaran DVDs that all have DD/DTS and over-animated menus, I am worried that because the films are 2.5 hours long they are filtering out high frequency detail to be able to fit all that on one disc without compression artifacts. Whether or not this is what they are doing, I don't know for sure, but it's not unheard of.


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yeah
the hf filetring is a bad encoding step and if studios wish to remove the same they can do so without much of trade off on pq see thin red line from fox 170 min long 9 GB disc full bit rate DTS and dolby and widescreen and the print is so good so it can be done without any filtering needed and loss of sharpness on the print so why cant our guys do it they have to know how to do it thats all . and was done few years ago so why cany anybody do it NOW?????

i was having a long off topic chat with kits of idreamdvd on these issues.

lets hope it shows results in hos next release


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The Sathyam DVD is not too bad. The faces look a little plasticky at times, but colors and brightness are very good.


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