Sure buy pirate and kill chances of any proper DVDs by good companies in the future.

Wait for sale prices instead. Each and every item in the west goes on clearance prices one time or another.

Rana

Further to '25 vs 50 steps per sec':

mhafner, could you please check your Metrodome ASOKA if that gives you 25 or 50 steps per sec?? Arsh and I found ASOKA as 25 steps per sec on Power DVD. It's quite possible, your set up has a capability to advance by fields?? I would like to have a capability to advance field by field, but don't have so far.

Thanks.

Rana

I agree with Rana. Don't go on buying every dvds in pirate for the sake of a few dollars (or more).
You are killing good companies like Diaphana giving us quality dvds.
Diaphana is not EROS (Kakhee)...


Dredd

I did tell you rana!! ASOKA is 25fps, I dont know if MHAFNER's asoka will be any different than ours!???I am skeptical

I'm trying to figure out, if, why and under what conditions do we get 50 steps per sec.

As I said, I would like to get the capability to look at video fields instead of video frames, if possible.

Rana

Sorry!! I didnt get it right!

I ordered my copy from amazon.fr a good 9 days ago and still waiting for it to arrive....

Grrrrrrrr.

LOL.

Sorry guys, it did actually arrive later on after I posted that it hadn't.

So I ripped it open out of pure excitement, threw it on the DVD tray and was pleasantly surprised. There are a few lines missing here and there and the sound sounds different to what I've become accustomed to hearing (shitty Eros shit), but it's miles of steps up from the shitty Eros bullshit shit version. Only one-tiny-almost-insignificant flaw is the slight grain which becomes apparent now and again to the eagle eyed (which someone I think mentioned earlier). Oh, and those damn it french subtitles.

Other than that, WOO HOO! ROCK ON BABY!

Checked Asoka and Hollywood stuff in PAL. It's always 50 clicks. Strange. It's 24 for NTSC when progressive.

Mhafner, I think, there is a difference in steps, 25 frames vs 50 fields! I think? can u clarify?

I have seen, some standalone dvd player, u can choose, frame or field for stepping?

I would love to learn..

are the subs on the black bar or on the pic

My Sony 7700 has no option to switch between fields and frames.
If there are fields on the disc
it shows fields. If there are
frames it shows frames. The PAL
DVDs have 50 fields so it outputs
these. The picture is progressive
nonetheless after the fields are
combined into frames by an
external scaler or if you use
a progressive PAL DVD player which
combines them internally.

but on powerdvd, i count 25/sec on my asoka?

Well, I got my copy Yesterday. It took over 3 weeks, since order, and a $1,50 GST and $ 5 service charge to asses $ 1.50 GST.

Agree with most that's mentioned above. A few extra comments/ observations:

1) Whether it is recorded as 50 fields per sec or 25 Progressive frames, I think, makes no difference whatsoever to weave the original 25 frames back. Perfectly weaved frames using Force Weave in Power DVD.
BTW, I counted 25 steps per sec using Power DVD, same as Metrodome ASOKA. Looks like mhafner's DVD player has a capability to advance field by field, which I don't have or don't know how to.

2) An Eye Candy PQ. People who think, EROS Devdas is pretty good, compare it with this DVD, side by side.

3) DVD quality does full justice to Rs 50 crore spent on making this film. Actually, I find this PQ more clear than theatrical screenings that I saw. For theatrical screenings I complained and wondered why spend crores of rupees on sets and cinematography when you can't see them on the screen. Faces were black circles in dimly lighted scenes, that are plenty. But in Diaphana DVD, it's crystal clear. Full justice done to Cinematographer's intentions.

Run Time Comparison between Diaphana and EROS editions:

1) Woh Chaand Jaisee Ladki song is in Diaphana edition. It's only one verse though. Don't know, how long was it in CD or if it was in it's music CD at all. The song is part of background music in the scene where SRK puts his hand on the candle flame and under Aish's hand to protect her hand from burns. Total scene is about two and a half minute of which 'Woh Chand Jaisee Ladki' lyrics are for about 30 sec.
Strangely enough the same scene is in EROS version as well and runs for about same time length, but no lyrics.

2) EROS version includes SRK's father's death bed scene where as it's not in Diaphana edition. About 2 min.

3) EROS version is 185 min. Diaphana edition with normal 4% speed up for PAL is 173 min equivalent to 180 min of film. So the descripency is just 5 min of which 2 min I just mentioned above.

4) Extras disc in Diaphana edition is mainly doccumentaries about Bollywood and is in French. It also has Endings of this Devdas version as well as of Dilip Kumar?? (Barua) version, for comparison and comments.
EROS has it's own extras that I did not check yet. (Of course, don't expect Video shoots, in extras disc, to give combing free Force Weave)

BTW, both (Diaphana and EROS) editions have DD audio at 384 kbps and not 448 kbps.

FRENCH AUDIO:
Extremely well done. For whatever I saw while struggling with audio options, found French dialogs very well matched with lip synch as well as with character's moods and tones. Did not appear if audio was dubbed for a 2nd language. I admit, I don't understand french, but have seen enough french films on TV, to be able to make this remark.

Rana


In short, $ 50 well spent. Worth every penny. Does Full Justice to the Cover 'PRESTIGE EDITION'. It's PRESTIGE to have it in your COLLECTION

Well I'm happy that you liked that DVD, I admit that I was a bit worried about what you guys here on Zulm would think of this DVD... you're very demanding and that's good. Sorry not to have told you about the unremovable french subtitles, I forgot to try to remove them as I don't understand Hindi.

Anyway I just wanted to ask you Rana (and that's a bit out of subject): what are the French movies you saw? For example the ones you liked and the ones you hated.