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rana
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:36 am 
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As I looked into Nashad vs Naushad credits, the credits are mixed up.
rana wrote:
Recall old forgotten but memorable hit song:
Tasveer Banaata Hoon Tasveer Nahin Banti
by Talat Mehmood
Film Baradari

But, did you know the Music Director ??
No, it's not Naushad. It's Nashad.
Very similar names from the same era.

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Later, I noticed, IMDB Baradari music to Naushad, credited as Nashad ??
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0154206/fu ... cl_sm#cast

On the other hand Nashad has his own page on IMDB, where his name comes up with music of mostly Pakistani films (and also Baradari).
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3142754/?ref_=nv_sr_4

Any one knows for sure if Nashad and Naushad is the same person or if Baradari music was by Nashad (not Naushad) ??


Initially, I was not even sure if these were two different persons or the same person with two different spelling. For sure, they were two different individuals.

Quote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashad
In 1949, Nashad using the name Shaukat Ali Haideri composed songs for the film "Dada". The director was Harish, and it was released under the banner of "Omar Khayyam films", the cast included Sheikh Mukhtar, Begum Para, Munawwar Sultana, Shyam, Murad, Mukri, and Gullu. It was released in Jubilee cinema, Karachi. In 1953, film director, Nakshab Jarachavi, changed Shaukat Ali's name to Nashad, which he retained for the rest of his life. The story behind the name change has been written in the book "Naushad: Zarra Jo Aaftaab Bana" (Penguin). The director initially approached Naushad Ali for composing the music for his film. When Naushad Ali refused, the irate director Nakshab Jarchavi then changed Shaukat Ali's name to Nashad, to make it sound like Naushad. Nashad composed for Jarachavi's 1953 film Naghma, starring Nadira and Ashok Kumar.


Quote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashad
In 1948, he (Nashad, not Naushad) also composed songs for film Toote Taare (1948) as Shaukat Dehalvi. Released under the banner of Sheikh Mukhtar's film production unit called "Omar Khayyam films", the director was Harish, and the cast included Shamim Banu and Motilal. In this film, he composed Mughal Empereor Bahadur Shah Zafar's famous ghazal "Na Kisi Ki Aankh Ka Noor Hoon" which became very popular throughout India.

I thought, this ghazal was from the film Lal Qila ??
Added Later: Obviously, this Bahadur Shah Ghazal must have been in film Toote Taare in 1948, music by Nashad. The same ghazal was also in 1960 film Lal Qila, sung by Mohd Rafi. This is the one, most of us know of. It'll be nice to find Nashad's ghazal from film Toote Taare.

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Wikipedia lists the following Indian films in which Nashad was the Music Director:
Filmography
In India

Nashad's films in India include:

Dildaar (1947)
Toote Taare (1948)
Suhagi (1948)
Jeene Do (1948)
Dada (1949)
Aiye (1949)[2]
Ram Bharose (1951)
Gazab (1951)
Naghma (1953)[2]
Chaar Chand (1953) cast: Shyama and Suresh
Darwaza(1954) director: Shahid Lateef, husband of writer Ismat Chughtai, cast: Shyama, Chandrashekhar. He introduced singer Suman Kalyanpur for the first time in this film.
Shahzada (1955)
Subse Bada Rupaiya (1955) director: P. L. Santoshi, cast: Shashi Kala and Sundar, music: Nashad and O. P. Nayyar.
Shehzada (1955), director: Mohan Sinha, cast: Sheela Ramani and Ajit, music: Nashad and S. Mohinder. ‘Jawab’.
Baradari (film) (1955), director: K. Amarnath, lyrics: Khumar Barabanki, cast: Geeta Bali, Ajith, Chandrashekhar and Pran.[2] This film had some hit songs "Bhula Nahin Dena Ji Bhula Nahin Dena, Zamana Kharab Hai, Bhula Nahin Dena" by Lata Mangeshkar and Mohammed Rafi, and "Tasveer Banata Hoon Tasveer Nahin Banti" by Talat Mehmood. Nashad himself sang a song in this film.
Awara Shehzadi, Director, Pyarelal, cast: Meena Shori and Diljeet, music: Nashad and Jimmi.
Jallad (1956) cast: Veena, Munawwar Sultana and Nasir Khan.
Bada Bhai (1957) cast: Kamini Kaushal and Ajit.
Zindagi Ya Toofan (1958) cast: Nutan and Pradeep Kumar.[2]
Mehfil cast: Rehana and Diljeet.
Hathkari (1958) cast: Shakila and Moti Lal.
Zara Bachh Ke (1958) cast: Nanda and Suresh.
Qatil (1960) cast: Chitra and Prem Nath.[2]
Flight To Assam (1961) cast: Shakila and Ranjan.
Pyar Ki Dastaan (1961) cast: Anita Guha and Suresh Kumar.
Rooplekha (1962) cast: Wajeeh Chaudhari and Mahipal.
Maya Mahal (1963) cast: Helen and Mahipal
Main Hoon Jadugar (1965)
Flying man (1965) Nashad's last film in India as a music composer.

Many of these films are credited to Naushad at IMDB and at many other internet pages.

Please contribute in clearing the confusion.
Thanks.


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rana
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:23 pm 
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More evidence that Baradari music was by Nashad and not Naushad. Other films too:

Quote:
http://www.hindigeetmala.net/movie/baradari.htm
BARADARI -1955
Tasveer Banata Hoon, Tasveer Nahi Banti
4.48 - 877 votes
Talat Mahmood Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad Khumar Barabankwi Chandrashekhar, Murad Sad Songs
Bhula Nahin Dena Ji Bhula Nahin Dena
4.30 - 114 votes
Lata Mangeshkar, Mohammed Rafi Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad Khumar Barabankwi Ajit, Geeta Bali Romantic Songs, Happy Songs

Chhayi Re Badariya, Abke Baras Bada Zulm Hua
4.55 - 20 votes
Lata Mangeshkar Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad Khumar Barabankwi Geeta Bali Happy Songs
Sitaare Dub Chale, Mohabbat Ki Bas Itani Daastaan
4.55 - 42 votes
Mohammed Rafi, Lata Mangeshkar Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad Khumar Barabankwi Ajit, Geeta Bali Dard Bhare Geet
Dard Bhara Dil Bhar Bhar Aaye
4.33 - 39 votes
Lata Mangeshkar Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad Khumar Barabankwi Geeta Bali, Murad Dard Bhare Geet
Mohabbat Ki Bus Itni Dastaan Hai
4.32 - 28 votes
Mohammed Rafi, Lata Mangeshkar Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad Khumar Barabankwi Ajit, Geeta Bali Happy Songs, Romantic Songs
Piya Ho Aayi Bairan Bahaar Kiye Sola Singar
4.11 - 19 votes
Lata Mangeshkar Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad Khumar Barabankwi Chandrashekhar, Geeta Bali Dance Songs, Mausam Songs
Kho Diya Maine Pa Kar Kisi Ko
3.92 - 38 votes
Lata Mangeshkar Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad Khumar Barabankwi Geeta Bali, Ajit Sad Songs
Dil Humse Woh Lagaye Jo Hanske Teer Khaye
3.75 - 12 votes
Lata Mangeshkar, Shamshad Begum Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad Khumar Barabankwi Pran, Meenu Mumtaz Mujra Songs
Chhodo Chhodo Ji Baiyyan Mori, Main Najuk Chhori
4.33 - 9 votes
Lata Mangeshkar, Shamshad Begum Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad Khumar Barabankwi Minu Mumtaz, Gope, Cuckoo Ched Chad Songs
Chali Wo Naseeb Ki Aandhiya
2.67 - 9 votes
Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad Khumar Barabankwi Ajit, Geeta Bali Sad Songs

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Film cast: Ajit, Geeta Bali, Pran, Gope, Murad, Cuckoo, Minu Mumtaz, Chandrashekhar, Tiwari, Sapru, Amir Bano, Ramesh Thakur
Singer: Lata Mangeshkar, Mohammed Rafi, Shamshad Begum, Talat Mahmood
Lyricist: Khumar Barabankwi
Music Director: Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad
Film Director: K Amarnath
Film Producer: K Amarnath Productions Ltd
External Links: Baradari at IMDB
Watch Full Movie: Baradari at YouTube

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Youtube link to more Nashad songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEl41QwijOs



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Zoran009
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:24 am 
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There was a Composer from Pakistan named Nashad!
Am not sure if he composed for any thing in bollywood?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashad


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naushad
Taj Mahal the eternal love story was his last credited film where all the tunes were arranged by his assistant or disciple Uttam Singh!

I think thos is the best with 2 different dates of birthd. We can possibly sort this through ;)
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rana
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:49 pm 
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Na Kisi Ki Aankh Ka Noor Hoon from Lal Qila (1960 film), sung by Mohd Rafi, music by S N Tripathi, we all know of.

Same ghazal lyrics was also in a 1948 film Toote Taare
Film: Toote Taare (1948) Singer: Rajkumari Dubey, MD: Shaukat Ali (Nashad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRBRoSB9TVY

Lyrics: Muztar Khairabadi ?? or Bahadur Shah Zafar - controversy:
As per Javed Akhtar, a handwritten lyrics, written by Muztar Khairabadi has been found.
My opinion: Even if a handwritten manuscript by Muztar has been found, does not mean Bahadur Shah Zafar did not write it originally, over a hundred years befor.
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