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Listen to the song below

http://www.dhool.com/sotd/pournami.rm

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Phir Raat Kati 1

Hmmm

Also there are other two songs which reminds me of old IR songs (one from Nayagan - Naan Sirithaal Deepavail, once I have the exact link, I will send you)

BTW after multiple listening, I liked the songs.


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Rita wrote:
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Thats why Miyan arsh....along with Kaal, I have since deleted this album :D


Holy Mary Sweet Jesus! This is cheesier than ROG music!

One needs a strong stomach/earplugs to listen to the song “Phir Raat Kati!”
I expected better of my fav singer Sukhwinder but here his voice sounds like he has dyspepsia and Sunidhi did not compliment the vocals either.
What are those awful resounding yodeling vocals and screeching voice alternately interjected between the yodels? :roll:
Would be perfect background music for a horror movie!

Sknath, I agree, so far 'Parineeta' rocks, and 'Nazar' is darn good music! 8)
Surely 'Lucky Lips' is ace material compared to 'Paheli'!

“Dheer Jalna” is the only song I liked, creatively classy and acceptable
for its good drum beats, chorus and Sonu Nigam.
Otherwise, this album is null and void imo.

Rita its time for my pickup line now...
"Hamare khayalaat kitne milte julte hain" :D


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dvdunlimited wrote:
Listen to the song below

http://www.dhool.com/sotd/pournami.rm

Listen to

Phir Raat Kati 1

Hmmm

Also there are other two songs which reminds me of old IR songs (one from Nayagan - Naan Sirithaal Deepavail, once I have the exact link, I will send you)

BTW after multiple listening, I liked the songs.



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Paheli is not your run-of-the-mill soundtrack. It's got a great deal of that quality known as melodic wisdom. The quality seeps through the luminous poetry and irrigates the very essence of the drama that unfolds through the songs.





http://www.musicindiaonline.com/ar/i/movie_name/7893/0/

I am glad DU you had patience to listen to it a few times..
No doubt, it does not sync with your system right away, except dheere jalna, that you get hooked right away.

Then it is turn for next kangna re, and continues..there is so much, new in this and sheer quality in Karem's arrangements and instrumentation, that it really puts you to extreme surprise that a southern composer getting so much down to earth folk Rajhastani!

I feel pity for those who are not blessed with divine blessings of patience and go for instant gratification only.

This is very different from all Rajasthani based soundtracks! e.g Lekin, Lamhe, Rudali, Lagaan etc., May be Reshma aur Shera too? but I don't recall that one.

Some soundtracks you never become ear friendly with somehow, right away, e.g. Aks in my case! It was one of best Anu/Gulzar Combo, besides Filhal, and Asoka, Fiza.

A ot of ARR albums fail to sync initially, and you think? What a weired out of sync composition, but a couple listenings will set you up in his mode, and then it will be magic onwards!

No more comments. I rest my case. Parineeta is really good, Zehar is very decent too!

Kareem is overrated or underrated? I can't say!
From Criminal till Today, I liked his work!


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Miyan arsh...Rudaali was an unconventional soundtrack... But the music was nowhere compared with Paheli.... It was fabulous... (esp that song Jhooti Moothi Mitwa)....as for Lamhe...You had morni baaga ma song by Ila Arun and Lata Mangeshkar..the trick was it had a Rajasthani beat followed by a Bollywood track...

When we talk abt Folk Music.../ Classical Music... we also have a Taj Mahal... There was something in Taj Mahal which is lacking in Paheli...


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Paheli's music transports you

Sukanya Verma | May 10, 2005 15:16 IST


Not many film soundtracks transport you to another world. The music of Shah Rukh Khan's new film, Paheli, a remake of Mani Kaul's Duvidha (1973), does.

It lures you inside Rajasthan -- the desert land of grand palaces, puppets, camels, turbans and red, yellow hues.

Composed by M M Kreem (Criminal, Zakhm, Jism) and embellished with Gulzar's lyrics, Paheli's music is pure in its Indianess and intense on poetry and melody.

Directed by Amol Palekar for SRK's home production, Red Chillies Entertainment, this spooky love story also features Rani Mukerji, Amitabh Bachchan, Suniel Shetty and Juhi Chawla.

The opening track, Dheere jalna, evokes an imaginary visual of a dim lamp in an enormous, dark room. The tune has an air of sensual chemistry, haunting mystery and a rustic background. The mellow number takes time to grow on you. Its instrumental version is also very soothing.

The second number in the soundtrack, however, is a letdown. For all its lyrical effervescence, Kangna re fails to fascinate.

The fluent notes of Rajasthani folk music fascinate the listener in Phir raat kati. The frothy pace and impish appeal is aided by Sunidhi Chauhan and Sukhwinder Singh's vivacious vocals.

Celebrations and blessings for a blissful marital life make up Laaga re jal laaga. The lyrics are magnificent, with Gulzar portraying nature as a woman.

Hariharan's wonderful rendition of a lover pining for his sweetheart in Khaali hai tere bina is exceptionally enchanting.

Mischief plays in the minds of village women in Minnat kare as they enlighten the bride-to-be about the art of romance and seduction. Engaging banter, this.

The music of Paheli might not strike a chord with popular taste, but stays true to the film's earthy theme. For the adventurous, however, Paheli is full of old-world charm and classical roots.


http://us.rediff.com/movies/2005/may/10 ... &file=.htm


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On the whole, 'Paheli' is one of the few classy albums of 2005 (three to be exact, but don't tell us to name them!), with the first song itself worth buying the whole album for. Kreem's compositions will grow with every subsequent hearing. But as the songs are quite situational and some folk music based, they have to be promoted aggressively along with the promos and clips for best results.

Overall Rating: 8/10

http://www.bollyvista.com/article/a/31/4811/5/


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SRK sucks with that HUMANGO PAGDI that has engulfed him!! :o


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SRK name on PRODUCTIOn/CAST is a huge set back, pre release for an Amol Palekar film.

It is bound to excite srk fans into their VZ mode by default. :(


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dvdunlimited wrote:
Listen to the song below

http://www.dhool.com/sotd/pournami.rm

Listen to

Phir Raat Kati 1

Hmmm

Also there are other two songs which reminds me of old IR songs (one from Nayagan - Naan Sirithaal Deepavail, once I have the exact link, I will send you)

BTW after multiple listening, I liked the songs.


Phir raat kati, is a folklore Rajasthan kathputli Tamasha kinda song, as appears on movie website and hence sounds very authentic to me. It was meant to be that way.
Well, Kathputli Tamasha in Johar's film be remix of this number, with take me high, let me fly, dhoom, dhamal, shava, balle remix with chants to please the high society commoners!what a pity. :nopity:

DU, have you listened to Khali haen, number by Hari Haran yet? It is Ghazal style, and inclusive this and other Rajasthani, Flutes, shehnaii, drums and ek taras have been used widely to create that regional folkloristic effects.

**Baqi Nath, Miyan, khiyal milna bhi ajeebitefaq sa hai, najaane kab kiss se miljaen, Duniya bohat badi hai!


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Parineeta
Fresh talent fails to imbue novelty to the sound of "Parineeta" - a sweet but finally unproductive soundtrack.

Of course, it's a blessing to get an album where the sound is tonally textured to serenade softness. But efforts to recreate the nostalgia and grace from an era gone-by in "Parineeta" are largely sterile.

The tracks are subdued and shaded to offset the onslaught of noisy over-orchestrated babble-bouncers of today.

Of course, Vinod Chopra's always likes to go for the skill. His music for "Parinda", "Kareeb" and "Mission Kashmir" were all pleasant and soothing. His "1942: A Love Story", one of the finest movie soundtracks of the 1990s, was every bit a musical landmark.

If you're searching for old-world charm in the melody design - which made R.D. Burman's sounds in "1942..." so special - you may perhaps stopover take a pert peep at "Parineeta".

But if you hope for what Arun Kumar Mukherjhee did with the old version of "Parineeta", or even what Kalyanji-Anandji did in "Sankoch" (based on the same novel), then the music seems almost weightless in comparison.

While one could walk the wispy waltz with "Ek ladki do dekha" or "Kuch na kaho" in "1942...", efforts to recreate the nostalgia and grace from an era bygone in "Parineeta" are largely sterile.

Shreya Ghosla, though sweet-toned is no Lata Mangeshkar. She and Sonu Nigam are in a filigreed form in "Piya bole" (where you also get to hear Saif Ali Khan), "Kasto Mazza" (which includes superb use of the sound of a chugging locomotive) and "Soona man ka aangan".

But the trembling beauty through melodies that Shreya had achieved to some extent in Bhansali's "Devdas" in absent.

Realizing her limitations, the album brings in Chithra for the least light-hearted melody "Raat hamari toh". The lyrics about the unbearable agony of being in love, is conveyed with her habitually thick Tamil accent.

Sunidhi Chauhan smoulders in the jazz-tinged "Kaisi paheli zindagi". But this isn't one of her most bravura performances.

Veteran Thumri singer Rita Ganguly, who does the raunchy wedding song "Dhinak dhinak dha" is able to do precious little with the restricted space provided by the lyrics.

Partly it's the tune to blame. Debutant Shantanu Moitra is able to bring in the Bengali element but the melody sections needed to be further strengthened.

As they stand, the songs seem to on shaky ground. Lyrics by Swanand Kirkire are self-consciously poetic.

The album comes to us with much expectations. None of it fulfilled. The songs leave you with a remote feeling of dissatisfaction.

It's like rowing down what you think is the Hoogly, but finally turns out to be just a quaint stream from the backwaters.

http://www.santabanta.com/cinema.asp?pid=6399

Your Beloved Subash K Jha

http://www.glamsham.com/music/reviews/parineeta.asp
Music of 'Parineeta' fails to match expectations
Subhash K. Jha, May 2

Parineeta

By Subhash K Jha
Wednesday, 04 May , 2005, 17:16

Lyrics by Swanand Kirkire

Music by Shantanu Moitra

Rating: **


http://sify.com/movies/bollywood/musicr ... d=13734016

So, miyan aapke is Subhash Boss ka kya karaen?....SANGSAR!!!IMHO :x :fight: AND sar phodo isska! :bangbang: :stupid: :bash:


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Miyan kuch karne ki zaroorat nahin hai... As u have rightly said...Paheli is a good album if you can appreciate folk music. I like folk music also..but unf, a SRK film with folk music !!!...the closest I can say was "yeh jo desh hai tera, swades hai tera"....but u had ARR there :)

Subhash Jha....ab kya batayein uske baare mein... Maybe I should ask Rita to go and smash his head :lol:

Paheli can become a good art house film....here in the west (esp the NRI population)..they cannot appreciate a film like Paheli....mind you I am not commenting abt the film, as I think an Amol Palekar directed film is just a treat to watch... Problem is with the music....and sadly, due to the music, a good film will be skipped by the desi populace here :(


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sknath wrote:
Miyan kuch karne ki zaroorat nahin hai... As u have rightly said...Paheli is a good album if you can appreciate folk music. I like folk music also..but unf, a SRK film with folk music !!!...the closest I can say was "yeh jo desh hai tera, swades hai tera"....but u had ARR there :)

Subhash Jha....ab kya batayein uske baare mein... Maybe I should ask Rita to go and smash his head :lol:

Paheli can become a good art house film....here in the west (esp the NRI population)..they cannot appreciate a film like Paheli....mind you I am not commenting abt the film, as I think an Amol Palekar directed film is just a treat to watch... Problem is with the music....and sadly, due to the music, a good film will be skipped by the desi populace here :(


I said so!! SRK to sell an Art film on his name!! is MAHA MOORAKHPAN!

This film is targeted to NRIs? I dont think so, not even Lekin, and rudali were, nor will be some thing like MAQBOOL..These kinda films are to be appreciated by ones who have BRAINS!

For NRI's NO BRAINERS will do!


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lol. MM "Kareem" Abdul Jabar?? I thought his alias was Kreem. I don't know how he/they got "Kreem" from Keeravaani!!!

anyway, I watched the trailer to this flick on tv. are all the songs remakes?? anyone know? the one in the trailer is a dubbing of "Kreem"s own work.


The man behind Paheli's tunes

Radhika Rajamani | May 11, 2005 17:29 IST


Some years ago, one heard a slightly offbeat song Tu mile dil khile aur jeene ko kya chahiye from Criminal, starring Nagarjuna and Manisha Koirala.

The song soared up the music charts, but the film sank.

A few years later, the same composer composed songs for Jism (some great ones like Jadoo hai nasha hai, Chalo chalen and Aawarapan), and he had arrived.

His name itself is a Carnatic raga.M M Kreem writes his name thus only for Hindi films. He uses M M Keeravani for his Telugu projects and Maragathamani for Tamil films.




"Stephen King had two identities, I have three," says the rather reticent composer, who shuttles between Hyderabad, Chennai and Mumbai.

Kreem has a strong foothold in Telugu films and does Hindi films only sporadically, the latest being Amol Palekar's Paheli, starring Shah Rukh Khan and Rani Mukerji.

A favourite with Mahesh Bhatt, his brother Mukesh Bhatt and daughter Pooja Bhatt, Kreem has won accolades for Bhatt movies like Criminal, Zakhm, Jism and Rog. He has also scored the music for Sudhir Mishra's Is Raat Ki Subaah Nahin.


Kreem is secretive about Paheli (right). "Ninety per cent (of the music) is acoustic and not digital. It will sound modern without being modern," he says. "Amol Palekar is an intellectual. I feel comfortable working with him. His wife knows classical music."

His future projects in Hindi include Rajiv Babbar's Kasak and an untitled movie with Tanuja Chandra. There are about three, four Telugu movies in the pipeline. "I like dealing with different projects at the same time as it helps to keep me fresh. I feel I get stuck if I am in one mood," he claims.

"Hindi films happened naturally," he adds. "Criminal (Nagarjuna in the film, below right) was a bi-lingual film, made first in Telugu and then in Hindi."


About his special association with Mahesh Bhatt, Kreem says, "Mahesh is frank, straightforward and likes my kind of music. Film music, according to me, is of two kinds -- for the lip and hip. Mahesh likes the first, which is long-lasting and doesn't provide scope for pelvic movement."

Perhaps that explains why his best efforts are reserved for Bhatt productions.

Kreem's musical sojourn so far spans 178 films in 15 years, in Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam and Kannada films besides Hindi.

Training in classical music (he learnt to play violin in Carnatic and Hindustani styles) has helped him. But his journey has not been smooth.

He worked as an assistant to music directors Rajamani and Chakravarthy. He also conducted an orchestra on a freelance basis.

His association with lyricist Veturi took him places. He bagged his first film in 1989, in a Krishnam Raju movie. But it was stalled.

He stuck gold with Ramoji Rao's Manasu Mamata. He remembers the days of struggle even now. "There was lot of mental stress, enough misery due to my economic condition. But as the saying goes necessity is the mother of invention," he says, adding, "But even today the struggle continues. Pain and struggle are part of life. I am now struggling to lose weight!"

He has been influenced by many -- K V Mahadevan, M S Viswanathan, S D Burman, R D Burman, Bhimsen Joshi, Kishori Amonkar to name a few. He listens to any kind of music except qawwalis. Ghazals are his favourite.

Kreem believes in the philosophies of Swami Sivananda and Osho, even though they may be contradictory. "Swami Sivananda says one must live with a goal. One must try to achieve it no matter how good or bad it is, while Osho says there is no goal -- there is only the path. Live life and celebrate each moment of the path. I manage to live by both. We have good and bad within ourselves, so we can live with contradictory philosophies."

"For the past 15 years, my output is not new. It is a form of expression. Whether it is unique or not is for listeners to say. If you produce a sound, it exists in the universe, it's just that we cannot hear it," he continues philosophically.

Kreem loves spicy food, especially Bisi bele Baath, a rice dish.

A voracious reader once upon a time, his reading has reduced considerably in the last few years. "I like watching English movies; they make sense," he says. "I liked Munnabhai MBBS because it was different from the rest. Paheli is also different

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dvdunlimited wrote:
Listen to the song below

http://www.dhool.com/sotd/pournami.rm

Listen to

Phir Raat Kati 1



With all the debate, some liking the music and some trashing it, I'm interested in sampling the music. There have been many classical memorable tunes/ songs. MughleAzam, HDDCS, Baiju Bawra etc. Sukhvinder is another factor. I have yet to hear a Sukhvinder song that I didn't like.

My PC can't play the song format in the quoted link. Is there any other link for sampling the Paheli music??

Thanks.


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rana, you must be one of the many people that hate real audio player. if this is the case, there is an alternative. it's called "Real Alternative" - google it. It's a codec that will allow you to play Real format shit in WMP (classic and modern).


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