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rana
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At 1 hr 23 min 30+ sec, the picture breaks down and you see flashes of other films (english B/W and some Hindi color film). Something like what you see in VHS at the end of "recorded over prev recording in the middle". Then it seems to go to 1 hr 13 min but before it gets there, it jumps to 1 hr 28 min (next chapter). I saw it in another disc as well, exactly the same. I wonder what process and at what stage got this glich and flaw in the disc??


Shemaroo Shri 420 is not officially sold in North America but can be found and I did buy it some 8 months back. Most likely it is an exact replica of Indian Shemaroo disc. May be even Indian Shemaroo has the same glitch.

Rana

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BTW, in order to see the skipped 4 min (1 hr 23 min 30 sec to 1 hr 28 min) scan the movie backwaeds as far as it lets you before the faulty segment. I was able to go to about 1 hr 24 min 30 sec aprox, thus missing only 1 min or so. (It was climax of the chapter (gambling) though.



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A lot of Shemaroo dvds are sold by SKY in the USA. This is why you saw the Shemaroo logo at the end of the movie. Its the same thing Tip Top Video was doing with DEI movies in the UK.



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rana
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Any insight on my original Question??

At 1 hr 23 min 30+ sec, the picture breaks down and you see flashes of other films (english B/W and some Hindi color film). Something like what you see in VHS at the end of "recorded over prev recording in the middle". I wonder what process and at what stage got this glich and flaw in the disc??

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Rana
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Zoran009
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Possible? transfered/compressed from VHS source rana? damn it! Pircay???
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rana
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PQ is too good to be coming out of a VHS.

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mhafner
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rana wrote:
Any insight on my original Question??

At 1 hr 23 min 30+ sec, the picture breaks down and you see flashes of other films (english B/W and some Hindi color film). Something like what you see in VHS at the end of "recorded over prev recording in the middle". I wonder what process and at what stage got this glich and flaw in the disc??

Thanks.

Rana

I watched this DVD tonight. It's an Indian original. It does
not have this problem. It has quite some other problems,
though. Who said Shemaroo is better than Yash Raj?? :angry:
Well, it is and it is not. Review coming in some days.
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shuman
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mhafner wrote:
Who said Shemaroo is better than Yash Raj?? :angry:
Well, it is and it is not. Review coming in some days.

I too dont notice much difference when it comes to b/w movies. especially when it comes to shree 420, awaara. however must say shemaroo's Barsaat somewhat better than yashraj.

Will be waiting for your review.
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izzy
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did shamroo take out/will take out raaz, kya kehna and what kind of disk do they use gold/silver and i am getting shamroo dvds for $25.00 cdn are these original
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rana
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mhafner wrote:
rana wrote:
Any insight on my original Question??

At 1 hr 23 min 30+ sec, the picture breaks down and you see flashes of other films (english B/W and some Hindi color film). Something like what you see in VHS at the end of "recorded over prev recording in the middle". I wonder what process and at what stage got this glich and flaw in the disc??

Thanks.

Rana

I watched this DVD tonight. It's an Indian original. It does
not have this problem. It has quite some other problems,
though. Who said Shemaroo is better than Yash Raj?? :angry:
Well, it is and it is not. Review coming in some days.


We are talking of 'SHRI 420", Right??

Could it mean that my disc, is made from Shemaroo's VHS tape?? Are Shemaroo VHSs that good??

Michel, do you get proprer 2-3 pull down sequence in your Shemaroo Shri 420?? I don't get this 2-3 pull down in my disc (mixed/ averaged frames).
And, please one more time. Are you sure, you don't get this split second glitch in your Shemaroo 'SHRI 420' disc??

Thanks.

Rana



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mhafner
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rana wrote:
mhafner wrote:
rana wrote:
Any insight on my original Question??
We are talking of 'SHRI 420", Right??
Could it mean that my disc, is made from Shemaroo's VHS tape?? Are Shemaroo VHSs that good??
Michel, do you get proprer 2-3 pull down sequence in your Shemaroo Shri 420?? I don't get this 2-3 pull down in my disc (mixed/ averaged frames).
And, please one more time. Are you sure, you don't get this split second glitch in your Shemaroo 'SHRI 420' disc??
Thanks.
Rana

Yes, Shree 420. No, this glitch is not there (they play
cards at that moment). There is no correct pulldown but
field averaging. The DVD is not made from a VHS source.
Sharpness is well beyond VHS capability and no comb filter
artifacts. It's component video.
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rana
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mhafner wrote:
rana wrote:
mhafner wrote:
rana wrote:
Any insight on my original Question??
We are talking of 'SHRI 420", Right??
Could it mean that my disc, is made from Shemaroo's VHS tape?? Are Shemaroo VHSs that good??
Michel, do you get proprer 2-3 pull down sequence in your Shemaroo Shri 420?? I don't get this 2-3 pull down in my disc (mixed/ averaged frames).
And, please one more time. Are you sure, you don't get this split second glitch in your Shemaroo 'SHRI 420' disc??
Thanks.
Rana

Yes, Shree 420. No, this glitch is not there (they play
cards at that moment). There is no correct pulldown but
field averaging. The DVD is not made from a VHS source.
Sharpness is well beyond VHS capability and no comb filter
artifacts. It's component video.

Sharpness on my disc too is way better than VHS. But it does have that glitch. I wonder, what process of duplication/ replication/ copying could do that??

Rana
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ali
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Reviews of both DVDs up, thanks to Michel Hafner for providing reviews and comparative screen shots :thumbs:

http://www.zulm.net/modules....thold=0

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mhafner
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ali wrote:
Reviews of both DVDs up, thanks to Michel Hafner for providing reviews and comparative screen shots :thumbs:

http://www.zulm.net/modules....thold=0

Ali

By the way, if you want to see how good B&W film of the 50s
can look on DVD if state of the art technology is used
watch "Sunset Boulevard", the Billy Wilder classic. It
was digitally restored at 2K resolution and the DVD is
a direct digital clone. Parts of this disc are among the
best looking stuff I have seen on DVD: Jaw dropping detail
with zero EE and gorgeous contrast. Extra yummie. :love:
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Hardev
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my friend is back from India he got 19 SHEMAROO DVDs for me
i have,nt get dvds yet ( Will get within week )
he manage to get 15% discount from Shemaroo .
will post more later .
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Hardev
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my friend is back from India he bought 19 dvds for me from SHEMAROO , i check all the dvds. all dvds are gold media and all have shemaroo video ( DVD ) printed on the rim of the discs . and all have index card . some new release have book let in it and have shemarro,s web address on the rim of the disc. also all dvds has shemaroo hologram shiny sticker on the front cover . all dvd cases in side has shemaroo printed on the left side . and top of the disc spindel all cover have icon of hand showing the pressing center button . the hard case are little wider than usual cover use by DEI , EROS etc.
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