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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:35 am 
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Khuda Nigehebaan is in the Shemaroo version ... and it was also in the new colour version when I saw it in the cinema. Probably they didn't put it in the song menu as it leads on from Yeh Dil Ki Lagi!

Anyway - I was sure that I read an article a while back where they said that the full version of the film will be released on DVD.


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From what I saw in theater, the picture here is pretty close to it... The DVD picture is a little blury though.
But otherwise colours are the same aspect ration is correct (I think) I would say the DVD is prefectly ok..


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MEA in B/W, not sure which DVD these shots are from, I'm sure Arsh will reveal all :lol:

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Sorry!! original shemaroo partly colored version.


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arsh wrote:
So, by no means this new dvd could have untampered OAR authoring :cry:

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so, this was best eros could do, that crop from sides and try to refit in 4:3 frame!

1960 OAR 4:3 (most likely)

Theatrical AR of restored version-----1.78:1
Making a 1.78:1 out of original 4:3 requires cutting top and/ or bottom of frames, not sides.

EROS DVD 1.52:1:
Making 1.52:1 out of original 4:3 cuts picture from top and/ or bottom, not sides. Cuts less than what it cuts to make 1.78:1 out of 4:3.
So, DVD did it right.

1.52:1 frame can be presented either in a 4:3 (black bars at top and bottom) or in anamorphic (black bars on sides), giving same picture resolution.
So, nothing wrong not making it anamorphic.

If AR of the restored version (1.78:1) is to be presented, then anamorphic DVD will be better. But, note that 1.52:1 has extra picture at top and bottom as compared to 1.78:1, but less picture than original 4:3.


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Well, now I have seen, some part of it, sit through..my verdict is

" DISAPPOINTING REMASTER''

I wish they would leave film as far AR(NOT BAD IN DVD FOR VIEWING IF ORIG WAS 4:3), but colors are outrageously nasty, if you ask me, oversaturated, fake...bla bla bla!

It took grace out of film, they also screwed up last 30 minutes where originaly colors looked more natural, messing them up to match the rest!

well!!

Sound is darn good for film of that age, no hissing..nothing.

Print still sub optimal and shaky at places!

I wish, they would just restore and remaster i its original form, and let classic stay classic like CASA BLANCA!

On watching again, film is interesting even to younger folks too, to my susprise!

Performances are top notch and they dont go over board..Madhubala is simply Amazing!!!! 8) Her facial expressions are admirably solid in each and every scene, charm, naive, courageous, frightened, rebelious!! wow!!

Lachhu Maharaj's choreography for that age goes beautiful with Anarkali's Charisma!!!

She is no less, but more of devdas's aish and Madhuri at that time!!

Did she win any award for that?? in 1960?

BTW! She does remind you of Meena Kumari at times!


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Did she win any award for that?? in 1960?



Here is the Proof:
Filmfare Awards are flawed.

Bina Rai won for Ghunghat.
Dilip Kumar won for Kohinoor and not for MEA.

1960 Nominations:
http://www.indiafm.com/filmfare/annual/ ... ions.shtml

Winners:
http://www.indiafm.com/filmfare/annual/ ... ners.shtml

The Winners


Best Film
Mughal-e-Azam


Best Director
Bimal Roy (Parakh)


Best Actor
Dilip Kumar (Kohinoor)


Best Actress
Bina Rai (Ghunghat)


Best Actor in a supporting role
Moti Lal (Parakh)


Best Actress in a supporting role
Nanda (Anchal)


Best Story
Ruby Sen (Masoom)


Best Music
Shanker Jaikishen (Dil Apna Preet Parayee)


Best Lyrics
Shakeel Badayuni - Chaudhvin Ka Chand Ho (Chaudhvin Ka Chand)


Best Playback Singer
Mohammed Rafi - Chaudhvin Ka Chand Ho (Chaudhvin Ka Chand)


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rana wrote:
arsh wrote:
Did she win any award for that?? in 1960?



Here is the Proof:
Filmfare Awards are flawed.

Bina Rai won for Ghunghat.
Dilip Kumar won for Kohinoor and not for MEA.

1960 Nominations:
http://www.indiafm.com/filmfare/annual/ ... ions.shtml

Winners:
http://www.indiafm.com/filmfare/annual/ ... ners.shtml

The Winners


Best Film
Mughal-e-Azam


Best Director
Bimal Roy (Parakh)


Best Actor
Dilip Kumar (Kohinoor)


Best Actress
Bina Rai (Ghunghat)


Best Actor in a supporting role
Moti Lal (Parakh)


Best Actress in a supporting role
Nanda (Anchal)


Best Story
Ruby Sen (Masoom)


Best Music
Shanker Jaikishen (Dil Apna Preet Parayee)


Best Lyrics
Shakeel Badayuni - Chaudhvin Ka Chand Ho (Chaudhvin Ka Chand)


Best Playback Singer
Mohammed Rafi - Chaudhvin Ka Chand Ho (Chaudhvin Ka Chand)


Holly cow!!! Kohinoor and Dilip Kumar, is like SRK for BADSHAH and not for DEVDAS :shock:

Kohinoor was not a bad film, light hearted! more commercial, mass appeal I guess!! Typical FF kinda film to honour in music channel style!


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arsh wrote:
Well, now I have seen, some part of it, sit through..my verdict is

" DISAPPOINTING REMASTER''


That sucks, how are the extras ??. I am now beginning to contemplate if I should get this DVD . Have you tried watching it by switching to B/W if so how does it look ?

BTW - Thank you for the eye catching screenshots


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dvdisoil wrote:
arsh wrote:
Well, now I have seen, some part of it, sit through..my verdict is

" DISAPPOINTING REMASTER''


That sucks, how are the extras ??. I am now beginning to contemplate if I should get this DVD . Have you tried watching it by switching to B/W if so how does it look ?

BTW - Thank you for the eye catching screenshots


how can you switch color film to black and white? just turn colors off on your display..lol? :roll:


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If AR of the restored version (1.78:1) is to be presented, then anamorphic DVD will be better. But, note that 1.52:1 has extra picture at top and bottom as compared to 1.78:1, but less picture than original 4:3.



Yes!! I agree!! i dont care for top and bottom any ways! :lol:


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arsh wrote:
dvdisoil wrote:
arsh wrote:
Well, now I have seen, some part of it, sit through..my verdict is

" DISAPPOINTING REMASTER''


That sucks, how are the extras ??. I am now beginning to contemplate if I should get this DVD . Have you tried watching it by switching to B/W if so how does it look ?

BTW - Thank you for the eye catching screenshots


how can you switch color film to black and white? just turn colors off on your display..lol? :roll:


Yeah - is that not possible ?? . I mean, if you think the color look fake then the "in theory" the easiest way to getting around it the problem is to switch to B/W - right ??


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dvdisoil wrote:
arsh wrote:
dvdisoil wrote:
arsh wrote:
Well, now I have seen, some part of it, sit through..my verdict is

" DISAPPOINTING REMASTER''


That sucks, how are the extras ??. I am now beginning to contemplate if I should get this DVD . Have you tried watching it by switching to B/W if so how does it look ?

BTW - Thank you for the eye catching screenshots


how can you switch color film to black and white? just turn colors off on your display..lol? :roll:



Man!! I never see any switch on my player or display to switch to BNW?? :?: :idea:
Yeah - is that not possible ?? . I mean, if you think the color look fake then the "in theory" the easiest way to getting around it the problem is to switch to B/W - right ??


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dvdisoil wrote:
arsh wrote:

how can you switch color film to black and white? just turn colors off on your display..lol? :roll:


Yeah - is that not possible ?? . I mean, if you think the color look fake then the "in theory" the easiest way to getting around it the problem is to switch to B/W - right ??


Best way to switch back is to switch back to B/W Shemaroo DVD. No cropping or cutting. No extra processing (any processing, degrades quality). Plus you get the full length version.


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rana wrote:
dvdisoil wrote:
arsh wrote:

how can you switch color film to black and white? just turn colors off on your display..lol? :roll:


Yeah - is that not possible ?? . I mean, if you think the color look fake then the "in theory" the easiest way to getting around it the problem is to switch to B/W - right ??


Best way to switch back is to switch back to B/W Shemaroo DVD. No cropping or cutting. No extra processing (any processing, degrades quality). Plus you get the full length version.


Amen to that

Usually T.V's have a "Switch to B/W as part of their setup" but who knows i dont known a TV :)


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