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DragunR2
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Someone should have told Sharma not to expect a Gadar at the box office.
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Zoran009
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BTW!! what was SHARMA's hit before GADAR?
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dograk
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was it hukkamat? (just guessing..)...?
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Zoran009
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Never hEARD OF that? dogra?
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Aryan
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DragunR2 Posted on April 26 2003,16:11
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Someone should have told Sharma not to expect a Gadar at the box office.


Someone should have told Sharma not to make films. Leave it to the professionals.
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Sanjay
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Anil Sharma has always been primarily a cheap B grade movie director making cheap (not neccesarilly in budget) action films like Hukumat. Gadar inspite of its weaknesses was still overall an entertaining film and quite watchable (not so sure about the ridiculous climax though). Shradhanjali is another film from Anil Sharma which was also okay, as for the rest of his films the less said the better.
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rana
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rana wrote:
The Hero - 1st week

Mumbai - 1,33,21,987
Ahmedabad - 45,14,879
Anand - 7,20,786
Jamnagar - 4,99,959
Adipur - 2,61,328
Pune - 29,34,796
Davangere - 1,65,317
Delhi - 1,12,68,819
Lucknow - 10,92,121
Agra - 7,15,318
Bareilly - 3,23,940
Dehradun - 3,11,115
Jhansi - 2,40,936
Nagpur - 10,51,022
Raipur - 2,29,057 (6 dy.)
Jalgaon - 2,57,924
Chandrapur - 2,32,269
Jaipur - 11,22,650
(Average per print: 4,56,561)


No matter what others say, Rs 450,000 per print in the first week is fantastic. No other film has gotton even half as much, in one week, this year.

One more week @ 75% of the above collections and It's a Hit in my opinion.

One more week @ 50% of the above collections and It's 'Not A Loser' in my opinion.

We'll know this weekend, when the 2nd week collections are reported.

Rana

Well, I said, it'll be a hit if it collects 75% of the first week in Week #2. Dograk has given collections for the second week and they are less than 60% of the first week, instead.

So, it's not a hit. (Unless it can sustain over 55% of the first week's collections in the third week or if it gets Entertaintainment Tax Free status).

Still I'll prefer to see this 'not hit' film on big screen as compared to profitable Tujhe Meri Kasam.

Rana



Edited By rana on 1051561978
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Zoran009
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Well, a turning point for He HERO!:

Supposedly, STRIKE is working in FAVOUR, but will it change THE FATE?

he Hero" Proves Its Detractors Wrong
By: Abid
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With the ban on releases, it was still all about ´The Hero´. Of course, this must mean good news for such a gargantuan film but it doesn´t mean that it will necessary put to to much higher places than it is and should be. Several other minute non-popular releases also made their way to Indian cinemas, and as usual, they did prove to have the upper hand. Harry Potter And The Chamber Of Secrets released last Friday. The sequel to the earlier Harry Potter, released in India this week and made a very impressive start specially in Metros and A class centers. On Sunday, the craze for the movie was unbelievable. However, it will have to be seen
whether it can repeat the success of the other Hollywood movies in India like Spiderman and the last James Bond flick.

In addition, the children orientated film 3-D Jadugar also released. 3-D Jadugar, being distributed by Shringar films has had some success due to the vacation of the school going audience (which has to be accompanied by the family) and also the 3-D effect. The movie had 90% and 70% collections in Mumbai in the first two weeks. The overall verdict on it is that the movie is cashing in on the fact that many of its target audience
were not even born when the last 3-D movies, Chota Chetan and Shiva Ka Insaaf released, will get limited success in 1 or 2 territories.
Film
The Hero
Starring
Sunny Deol, Preity Zinta, Priyanka Chopra
Released
April 11th, 2003
Summary
A section of the media was ready to flop The Hero from the second day of its release but Sunny Deol with his star power had plans of defying the trade pundits. Some of them had to take back their words or had to come up with lame excuses like "absence of any new release" to put down the steady second week collections of The Hero.

A surprising aspect of The Hero is that it is doing much better with the class audience and not so well with the mass .In Mumbai for example, the multi-screen theatres had 90% collections (with ticket rates of 200-280 Rs) and 70 % collections in the single screen theaters. (Tickets 40-80 Rs). It is quite opposite to the trend that has been seen for Sunny Deol movies.

Without going into the details of Territories ,we can say that The Hero has already triumphed in more than 50 % of India and a reasonable third week may further improve its position.
The all India Gross for the first two weeks is 16.25 crores. Percentages for the second week range from 65% Mumbai, 50% Delhi, 72% Lucknow, 71% Jaipur, 63% Ahmedabad and 43% Nagpur.



Final Verdict
The movie has already become a Hero in Mumbai-Maharashtra, Delhi -UP and CP, and has chances of improving in a couple of other territories. However in the South (except for Hyderabad Nizam) and the Eastern territory it has has not been accepted well. In the overseas too the movie has fared much better compared to the other Sunny Deol movies (except Dillagi).
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rana
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rana wrote:
So, it's not a hit. (Unless it can sustain over 55% of the first week's collections in the third week or if it gets Entertaintainment Tax Free status).

First, Dograk indicated that my prediction of The Hero becoming a Hit is only a dream. LOL.

Arsh and the audience is now signalling Dograk wrong and the audiences are making The Hero a hit. LOL.

I don't buy the lame excuse, "Strike is Helping The Hero".
If there is no good movie, audience stays home. They don't dish out Rs 200 on a crap movie because there is no other movie avail.

Rana
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Sanjay
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rana wrote:
I don't buy the lame excuse, "Strike is Helping The Hero".
If there is no good movie, audience stays home. They don't dish out Rs 200 on a crap movie because there is no other movie avail.

Rana

That is not actually true, the fact of the matter is that the strike has definately helped the business of Hero. Actually all films currently running have benefited to some extent due to the strike. The lack of new releases does increase the business of existing films to some degree. Even an exemption of 'Entertainment Tax' has a huge effect on the business of a film. Although this is not exactly the same thing but the reason why I mention is to show that irrespective of the quality of a film its prospects at the box office are effected due to a lot of reasons and the lack of competition is a major one of them. This is specially so in the case of 'The HEro' simply because in India children have just finished with their exams and this is generally a good time for movie busines and therefore the strike has definately benefited 'The Hero' a lot.
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dograk
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mhh..again, they're forgetting the gigantic budget of the movie. it needed to recover a lot more than it currently is for it to be a hit...

btw, obv the movie strike is helping the hero - if not for the strike, the movie would've been kicked out of theatres midway thru second week!

anyways, rana since you favor %ges look at the ones given in that article - 65% Mumbai, 50% Delhi, 72% Lucknow, 71% Jaipur, 63% Ahmedabad and 43% Nagpur.

i personally don't consider %ges useful, but since you do, ....
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Zoran009
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[ don't buy the lame excuse, "Strike is Helping The Hero".
If there is no good movie, audience stays home. They don't dish out Rs 200 on a crap movie because there is no other movie avail.]

I BUY that, yaar!!

another example was DEEWANGEE, it was OK, but GAINED substantial, because of lack of new releases, reason, I think, was FASTING MONTH? I dont remember exactly..

ECSL...was only SENSATION, in TOWN...so PEOPLE RUSHED, made it HIT!!

Industry has NOT SEEN A GLOSSY MUSH, esp, UK audience, WHO LOVE GLOSSY MUSH, like YRHPK, YAADEIN, K3G, creating history there, might EMBRACE ANDAAZ too, as people go to theatre? every day, i know, a few!!

People in US, have different TASTE, Action, does not work, well, here, some times, different films, satisfy them..

They are SMITTEN by BILB, Mr and Mrs Iyer is doing very well, in Theatres also, along with KAANTE and DEVDAS still, running..

YAADEIN part 4= MPKHD, might create history in UK, too, U know those AUDIENCE!! :baaa: :nopity: :hmm:
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dograk
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mid-days take on the hero and its collections...
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Hero on a downslide
By: Dinesh Raheja
April 30, 2003
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Sunny Deol in
The Hero
A third of the year has already elapsed — and it’s been a time full of lapses. Four months into 2003, and there’s not a single hit on the horizon (Jism is at best a plus film while Saathiya, which did well in Mumbai, was released last year).

Now, even the much tomtommed The Hero doesn’t offer much hope of gifting a blockbuster to the industry.

Despite no new Hindi releases to eat into its business and act as a villain, The Hero is unable to maintain its initial hold over the box-office.

A Sunny Deol show(case), this espionage thriller may have retained the No 1 rank on the charts in its second week but the omens are not very favourable.

The Hero haemorrhages 37 per cent in Mumbai and witnesses a daunting drop of 50 per cent in Delhi in its second week. Elsewhere too, the collections of the film plummetted after a dazzling start.

The Mumbai figures have already crossed the impressive two crore benchmark — it has amassed Rs 2 crore and 16 lakh so far.

But the expensively-mounted film will have to show continued resilience all over the country to recover the big monies invested. Currently, pulses and time are ticking away, in the hope that the film’s business will do a U-turn and earn.

Reportedly the producers lavishly bankrolled the hero-director team of Sunny Deol-Anil Sharma in an attempt to repeat the Gadar fireworks.

Interestingly, however, though The Hero earned Rs 54 lakh more than Gadar in the first week, it won’t be able to match upto Gadar’s box-office performance.

Gadar in its second week in Mumbai had earned Rs 80.2 lakh, a lakh more than the first week, and, in a show of arithmetic progression, had amassed Rs 81.2 lakh in the third week, two lakhs more than the first week!

The Hero, on the other hand, is witnessing a declining trend in its succeeding week.
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dograk
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i agree with arsh on the mpkdh point...it has the potential to do really really well here....but it depends a lot on the final product - a huge intial is guaranteed, but what about afterwards? would it collapse in the second week like yaadein?
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Zoran009
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GADAR, with all its DRAWBACKs and SECOND HALF, less EFFECTIVE, for me than FIRST HALF(more natural, sincere), did BETTER on its OWN!

PUnjabi etc, NORTH, did not BUY, DILLAGI, either!

What HERO needed was a simeltaneous release of AAMIR KHAN, HIT to make it HIT, LOL, This time it is a MISS, not HIT!
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