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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 3:58 pm 
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Aise kyon kehte hai, sknath ji? Sapney to hone chahiyen.

I had the exact same thoughts while reading some of the other posts on the pirates etc. There is enough knowledge about dvds and dvd authoring amongst the posters here. Just imagine high quality dvds from the zulmis :cool:


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Come on guys there's no money in original good quality dvds. Look what happened to DEi...


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What steps would be have to take if we were going to do this?

Please explain. Most of us would probaby like to contribute.

Raj


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pillairaj wrote:
What steps would be have to take if we were going to do this?

Please explain. Most of us would probaby like to contribute.

Raj

1.) If you are a guy...first find a rich dad ki bigdi hui ladki and then date her for sometime and then marry her and get all the money u can to invest in the sholay DVD ! ( dont worry the Talaq Talaq Talaq can be stated after the DVD has vbeen released)

2.) Vice versa for a gal except u have to wait for sometime before u say the Triple T

3.) If u cant afford a rich bakra/bakri then the only option left for u is to get a decent print of sholay (pirate it) and then take it to JOLLY who will give it to GVI and then you will get a decent DVD released :)


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sknath wrote:
pillairaj wrote:
What steps would be have to take if we were going to do this?

Please explain. Most of us would probaby like to contribute.

Raj

1.) If you are a guy...first find a rich dad ki bigdi hui ladki and then date her for sometime and then marry her and get all the money u can to invest in the sholay DVD ! ( dont worry the Talaq Talaq Talaq can be stated after the DVD has vbeen released)

2.) Vice versa for a gal except u have to wait for sometime before u say the Triple T

3.) If u cant afford a rich bakra/bakri then the only option left for u is to get a decent print of sholay (pirate it) and then take it to JOLLY who will give it to GVI and then you will get a decent DVD released :)

1) and 2) Try polygamy to get as much money as possible. But make sure not to be arrested.

3) Finding a print of Sholay will be no problem. Just break into the projection booth of some cinema in Mumbai that plays it all the time. Sure, it will be faded and have lots of lagging hairs and dust, but it will have to do.


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sknath wrote:
3.) If u cant afford a rich bakra/bakri then the only option left for u is to get a decent print of sholay (pirate it) and then take it to JOLLY who will give it to GVI and then you will get a decent DVD released :)

GVI and decent DVD? :baaa: :stupid: :bangbang:


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pillairaj wrote:
What steps would be have to take if we were going to do this?

Please explain. Most of us would probaby like to contribute.

Raj

If we were to do this, we would firstly need to have someone to take the lead in this matter. As this is his website and I think we all can safely trust him, Ali is the obvious choice.

We would need to establish exactly when the rights expire and then negotiate the purchase of the rights. Extra finance can be raised be taking on board advertisers like DEI had IndiaPlaza on their DVDs. In our case, I think we could take India Weekly.

Michel Hafner can supervise the authoring side of it and ensure the results are 'Reference Quality'.

Althougth the main objective is clearly to produce high quality DVDs, but there is also a good financial return, as the money put down by us Zulmis will be recouped many times over.

Simple isn’t it.

Is that my alarm clock I hear? Oh well, time to wake up now.


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Shah wrote:
If we were to do this, we would firstly need to have someone to take the lead in this matter. As this is his website and I think we all can safely trust him, Ali is the obvious choice.

Yeh yeh I like this guy ideas - SHOW ME THE MONEY! :p :DD: Send now, you can trust me :xmas: I'll let you when there's enough banked for the DVD :cool: :vsneaky: :oh:

Seriously though - I don’t think it's plausible as I think Sholay rights hang in balance. I’m not sure if Eros are the proper right holders – I remember reading somewhere that Sholay rights were disputed especially concerning the original sound track – there disputed somewhere by someone anyway :wot: And the amounts of money were talking to authoring/master a proper DVD – it’s seriously out my league anyway – even to organise it.

Ali


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Seriously though - I don’t think it's plausible as I think Sholay rights hang in balance. I’m not sure if Eros are the proper right holders – I remember reading somewhere that Sholay rights were disputed especially concerning the original sound track – there disputed somewhere by someone anyway <!--emo&:wot:

Ali

Rights are disputed. Doesn't it put SHOLAY in public domain?

Key is to get the source material. DEI-EROS had an excellent film available to them. Audio-Video was excellent but in those days DEI made all their DVDs non anamorphic 1.85:1 (cropped). A remastered 2.35:1 anamorphic DVD from the same film source can be a lot better than the EROS-DEI version.

Then, there was a Directors cut by EROS which added picture on all 4 sides of the frame making it more complete. I am sure Director Sippy co-operated here. Audio Video was not as good as the DEI-EROS version. I don't know, who faltered here; was the source film print bad or the authoring?

What we need is DEI-EROS's source film print, remastered for anamorphic DVD.

Ultimate will be Director Sippy supplied good film print authored for Director approved AR DVD which should be Anamorphic if Wide-screen. It is possible that the print that Sippy has, has only 2 Ch audio, in which case, director can select audio from DEI-EROS's film source which was multi-channel. A few patch-ups will be required as well to make it a Director's Cut.

Rana



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sholay is going to be shown at this year's locarno film festival...
lucky buggers.


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I think I read on the Sunny's old IDN that the original soundtrack wasn't available for the DEI-Eros DVD and that a soundtrack with fewer channels was used and that the original is being stored in London.

Will the 70mm stereophonic version play at Locarno? It's looking better and better to move to Europe all the time.


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Shah wrote:
If we were to do this, we would firstly need to have someone to take the lead in this matter. As this is his website and I think we all can safely trust him, Ali is the obvious choice.

Yeh yeh I like this guy ideas - SHOW ME THE MONEY! <!--emo&:p :DD: Send now, you can trust me :xmas: I'll let you when there's enough banked for the DVD :cool: :vsneaky: :oh:

Seriously though - I don’t think it's plausible as I think Sholay rights hang in balance. I’m not sure if Eros are the proper right holders – I remember reading somewhere that Sholay rights were disputed especially concerning the original sound track – there disputed somewhere by someone anyway :wot: And the amounts of money were talking to authoring/master a proper DVD – it’s seriously out my league anyway – even to organise it.

Ali

Ali,

I know i am dreaming. but can you give us some sort of estimation on how much dough$ is required for such film to receive justice!!!

and please dont wake me up! :sleep:



Edited By shuman on July 20 2002 at 14:16


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 Post subject: Sholay DEI Vs B4U
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2002 3:19 pm 
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Ok I have seen the comparison review in Zulm main site. It gives both versions same video rating of 4.
I have only the B4U version and it is one pathetic DVD. I am getting Sholay EROS/DEI from Indiaweekly. I am curious to know, how does the DEI version compared to other EROS/DEI titles?


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I have both! too, Let me check it out Ganti, But Believe me in the long run, comparing APPLES to APPLES DEI version will be BETTER! I'll keep u posted!

BTW! did u find DEI's GUPT yet? :baaa:


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I think, the reason for DEI DVD's low score was due to the cropped from all 4 sides picture. It was 1.33:1 as shot and on EROS-B4U DVD. Director cropped/ panned 2.35:1 for cinema prints and then 2.35:1 was cropped from sides giving 1.85:1 on DEI DVD. Otherwise DEI PQ is miles ahead of B4U's.

Rana


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