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Is Zulm getting crapper/ intelligent with all these technical references??
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Crapper 33%  33%  [ 7 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:27 pm 
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Rita wrote:
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It's not 3 ex-zulmis. Only one. Other two are still active zulm members. The only Zulmi that probable got ex-communicated by Ali was HABSHI.


I didn’t know Ali has such powerful ecclesiastical authority! :lol:
I bow before thee Ali… :D


(this was also mentioned in page 2 of this thread.)
zulm administrators definitely have these powers. But, Ali had stated at one time, that zulm administrators did not bar Habshi. Also, Habshi himself had written about him leaving zulm forums in his last post.


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and then.......life still goes on :roll:


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rana wrote:
1) It's not 3 ex-zulmis. Only one. Other two atre still active zulm members. :lol:

2) It's not that idream is so incompetent, it's that they asked for feedback and wanted to know what quality concious consumers want.

3) Why EROS YRF VS don't consult??
At one time I asked one of the DVD right holders to use a pirate but much better (one zulm member called it a work of master tech, in one of the posts) DVD. As they had the rights, they were free to use a pirate for replication. But, they said, their own version is good enough. Nothing doing. Why should they, when no one, other than me, demands it?? :oops:


I was about to post this yesterday before I got called away, that was before faddy had one he's pre-marriage spaz attacks.. anyways, in reply to rana’s post on page 1…

1) Hence the ( ) around the 'ex' :wink:

2) Didn't have Idream in mind, I've not come across any of their Telugu DVDs to comment. It seems strange though to be assessing what quality of DVD to give to consumers when the DVD market had matured and is about to go into decline as the next-gen formats is already being tantalised to consumers. The technical briefs, quality standards and consumers expectations should already be known and they should be delivering consistence quality DVD video like hundreds if not thousand of companies are already doing. This is the gripe with Bollywood DVD from Eros, YRF and alike, they have never consistency delivered any kind of quality.

3) Many, others than you, have in past and still do demand quality DVDs. Mostly when I talked to DVD companies in the past they point blank to refused to acknowledge that there is anything wrong with their DVDs, you can throw as much tech stuff at them as possible because they don’t understand it either. You can only talk and bang your head against the wall so many times.

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..It is fault both ways, MAKERS and CONSUMERS we are all CORRUPT one way or the other!! By buying bad products, buying pirates etc etc etc..keep going and then coming back to same issue" EGG OR CHICKEN"


Consumers might be corrupt, I’ve seen people buy thousands pounds/dollars worth of home cinema equipment yet they refuse to buy any legit DVDs, VCDs are good enough as long as in your living room there’s high end cinema equipment that you can brag about. There’s a simple two solutions to consider here; one is that all consumers stop pirating and legitimately buy all their DVDs. And once all the pirating has stopped – Eros, YRF and alike can come along assess the situation and say OK, ours customers have stopped their naughty practices and we can finally give them good quality DVDs – before this of course they didn’t deserve it as they’re so naughty as to dare to pirate our stuff. Second solution would be for the DVD guys to actually make good DVDs consistency (on media that last more than month would be good too :x ) and stop giving corrupt consumers an easy ride to justify piracy. People pirating have a way too easy time justifying their habit – its easy – media doesn’t last, quality is crap so what’s the point in buying legit. If the legit DVD is not delivering the home cinema experience they are used to with their Hollywood DVDs then they don’t need to buy the DVDs. Simplifying it maybe too much, its either in the power of consumers to bring about quality DVDs or DVD authors just start producing quality DVD in hope that consumers take up their offers. I see only one of these groups having the power to start the ball rolling, and it isn’t the consumers. Until then piracy is this arena justified.

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Until then piracy is this arena justified



lol. Thats giving Faddy a first class ticket to Pakistan! Forget the pre- marriage spaz he is gonna go hog wild! :lol: You may justify piracy but I still refuse to support it! :)


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JamesBond007 wrote:
You may justify piracy but I still refuse to support it! :)


It's not a matter of if I justify it or not or even you for that matter. It’s what is actually happening out there. Someone here mentioned that one of the distributors sold 6000 copies of the Veer Zaara DVD in one area. On one of the ‘pirate’ internet site, rips of the DVD has been downloaded over 2000 times, so far.

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O K I see your point! :oops:

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1) Hence the ( ) around the 'ex'


Thats an impish wink! C'mon spill the beans we know you banned atleast one person! If it's not Habshi, Rahul Modi Then? :?:


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1) Hence the ( ) around the 'ex'


Thats an impish wink! C'mon spill the beans we know you banned atleast one person! If it's not Habshi, Rahul Modi Then? :?:


One person, it could have been Rahul Modi, I honestly can't remember was banned on the Ikonboard (or even the previous old ones which are still live zulm.net/of/ ) I used to run the forums previously. When the switch was made to current phpbb forums, everything was reset, so no ones stands banned. The only reason I would ban someone would be if (and this was case previously) it was constantly spammed with abuse. I normally used to just delete the posts but you can only keep that up while your awake :lol:

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One person, it could have been Rahul Modi, I honestly can't remember was banned on the Ikonboard (or even the previous old ones which are still live zulm.net/of/ ) I used to run the forums previously. When the switch was made to current phpbb forums, everything was reset, so no ones stands banned. The only reason I would ban someone would be if (and this was case previously) it was constantly spammed with abuse. I normally used to just delete the posts but you can only keep that up while your awake :lol:

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zulms crap - shut it down!!


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Rita wrote:
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C'mon spill the beans we know you banned atleast one person! If it's not Habshi, Rahul Modi Then? :?:


Yea, we all know it was you, JB! Under the guise of an alias screen name. :P :lol:
No Kidding Sherlock? :P er..Miss Pussy Galore? :laugh:


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Well who is to be blames when the patrons will flock the store for the first pirated copy of any dvd for the new releases.
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Is this a trick question? In this case, if someone is to be blamed then it’s the fault of the store for supplying and selling the pirate. Easy really, because you see the ‘patrons’ will not flock the store if there no pirate available.

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Well who is to be blames when the patrons will flock the store for the first pirated copy of any dvd for the new releases.
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Is this a trick question? In this case, if someone is to be blamed then it’s the fault of the store for supplying and selling the pirate. Easy really, because you see the ‘patrons’ will not flock the store if there no pirate available.

Ali


..and vise versa. if there is no demand from the consumers, then there won't be any pirates :roll: just like there is no DEI :(


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I wonder, what would you call this:

Recently I purchased a legit DVD from the right holders/ their wholeseller agents. It was a "DVD-shrink" type copy on single layer disc, from their old old DVD that was on dual layer with higher bit rate. I found that out when I got to rent the old version. The two versions had different manufacturer's catalog #s.


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Pav wrote:
..and vise versa. if there is no demand from the consumers, then there won't be any pirates :roll:


No, that’s not quite right.

If people are demanding pirate DVDs, there’s a right and wrong way to approach this. Wrong way, give them what they demand, the pirate DVD. Right way to do it would be to tell them to go away and wait until an official DVD appears.

rana wrote:
I wonder, what would you call this:

Recently I purchased a legit DVD from the right holders/ their wholeseller agents. It was a "DVD-shrink" type copy on single layer disc, from their old old DVD that was on dual layer with higher bit rate. I found that out when I got to rent the old version. The two versions had different manufacturer's catalog #s.


Cost cutting? Insiders pirating their own DVDs? ..then blaming the consumers for buying them.

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ali wrote:
One person, it could have been Rahul Modi, I honestly can't remember was banned on the Ikonboard (or even the previous old ones which are still live zulm.net/of/ ) I used to run the forums previously. When the switch was made to current phpbb forums, everything was reset, so no ones stands banned. The only reason I would ban someone would be if (and this was case previously) it was constantly spammed with abuse. I normally used to just delete the posts but you can only keep that up while your awake :lol:

Ali


zulms crap - shut it down!!


And we all move to Azaadi! :lol: But wait! if I remember correctly the rules there are more strick and we will be at your mercy! :P Better idea! Ask Ali nicely to reopen the Off-Topic! :lol


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