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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:36 pm 
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Sympatico was down Yesterday and I had been waiting to share with you my findings on rental Mongrel BH DVD.

It's no Hollywood standard. Just a Bollywood standard. World Famous Interlaced (Pseudo Progressive), non-anamorphic, 2.35:1 made from 4:3 frames (45% cut off top and bottom).

If R2 version is directly film to PAL transfer, it sure will be High Def in comparison to Mongrel DVD. If R2 PAL is a NTSC to PAL converted copy of Mongrel, then expect worst.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:39 pm 
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rana wrote:
Mongrel BH DVD.

It's no Hollywood standard. Just a Bollywood standard. World Famous Interlaced (Pseudo Progressive), non-anamorphic, 2.35:1 made from 4:3 frames (45% cut off top and bottom).



PLUS, it's on Bollywood Standard Time Bomb media.
DVD freezez just before or just at the climax.
No matter how much you sing and dance, disc refuses to play. Wasn't it all the chatacters in the film, that were singing and dancing in the climax scene. In that case, it's us the viewers that end up singing and dancing in frustration.
To justify the name Bollywood-Hollywood, I'm sure I'll get my DVD rental back (or credit) as per hollywood standard.

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Looking at 2.35:1 frames, it's quite evident in many a scenes, that there was some picture at top and bottom that has been cut off.
For example:
1) Main character in the scene delivering dialog and screen shows only from nose and up in 2.35:1, where with more pic at top and bottom making it 1.78:1 or 4:3 will show lips in the same scene.

2) Scene showing VIP (subject of the frame) dancing - foot tapping, in 2.35:1 frame VIP's head and feet are cut off where as back-up dancers feet and head are in the picture. With more pic at top and bottom (1.78:1 or 4:3), VIP's head and feet will be in the scene.

3) And many other scenes------.

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BTW, it's hard to remember, but when I saw it in theatre where it was shown in 1.78:1 (sure about AR), I sure would have noticed objectionable framing that I mentioned above.


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Didn't we already have the discussion about Super 35 here? Bollywood Hollywood was shot in Super 35.

http://www.modeemi.fi/~leopold/AV/FilmToVideo/


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DragunR2 wrote:
Didn't we already have the discussion about Super 35 here? Bollywood Hollywood was shot in Super 35.

http://www.modeemi.fi/~leopold/AV/FilmToVideo/


If it was shot in super 35, then how did they make, mongreal, cinabella dvd?


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my mongreal dvd doesnt freeze ( thank fully) and its been 2-3 yrs since i had it, i prefer the mongreal dvd more then the cinebella


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arsh wrote:
DragunR2 wrote:
Didn't we already have the discussion about Super 35 here? Bollywood Hollywood was shot in Super 35.

http://www.modeemi.fi/~leopold/AV/FilmToVideo/


If it was shot in super 35, then how did they make, mongreal, cinabella dvd?


Well, I thought this will NAIL the coffin now!

I was finally able to get some screen shots of R2 and R1(mongreal) version of Bollywood Hollywood DVD!

I look forward for ali bhaii to post them here! :roll:


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..thanks to Arsh for the shots.

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Ali bhaii, can you please change the TITLE of this TOPIC to include other sets of Releases please?

Thanks


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Are these R2 shots are R1 shots??
Is the R2 DVD PAL or NTSC??


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rana wrote:
Are these R2 shots are R1 shots??
Is the R2 DVD PAL or NTSC??


rana sahab, top set is from r2 is prog and pal, bottom set all combed is from your beloved mongreal media's r1, ntsc, perfectly field averaged masterpiece!

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I hope it makes sense now :?: :idea:


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ali wrote:
These two screen shots show how the movie was filmed (~4:3, still some cropped noticed in this version) and how it was shown in cinemas (matted widescreen);

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Bollywood Hollywood is showing on Bravo Tomorrow at 9:00 PM. Let's see, which or the 2 versions we get and what's the OAR if there is such a thing??

Let's see if we get to see complete story frame like below or missing "kid with camera" and some heads chopped off??

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:04 pm 
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Video taped the Bravo broadcast.
Here is what I deduce from comparing my recording and the above 2 shots where Maushmi Chatterjee is serving drinks:

4:3 version of bravo was very slightly (un-noticeable) matted (cut) from top and bottom of the screen as compared from the 4:3 shot above. It did show lot more picture, at top and bottom, as compared to widescreen shot above.

4:3 Bravo as well as 4:3 shot above, both have sides cut off.

So,
It's 1.85:1 Original Aspect Ratio where 4:3 prints are made by chopping off sides and 2.35:1 prints are made by chopping off top and bottom and Heads.

The question is, why not keep 1.85:1 as director intended and was shown in North American theatres?? No picture is matted or cut off in 1.85:1 presentation.


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I saw on sundance channel, 1.85:1, non anamorphic too,!

So Pal R2 is not right dvd..it is mongreal who got it interlaced with right oar?


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